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| They should aim higher in some fixtures then last time but I hope they don’t forget the success stories of 2013 also even if they weren’t always at the biggest grounds.
I was at the Fiji vs Ireland game at Rochdale and that was special. The local Fijian community came out in force and it was a fabulous atmosphere. To get over 7,000 on in Bristol for a game between the USA and Cook Islands says they need a higher profile fixture. The Scotland games in Cumbria were great events as well. They’re not the biggest grounds or the best facilities at Workington but it created an atmosphere for them to feed off.
On the flip side I think after their exploits in this World Cup, the RFL can be more ambitious with the fixtures for the likes of Tonga and PNG. I was at Leigh in a 10,000 sell out for Tonga vs Cook Islands but with their performances recently, I think they can look at getting them in at Stadiums like Headingley or St Helens. They could also look at big double headers involving the likes of Tonga, PNG, Fiji and one or two if the big boys.
It’s just a shame we have to wait four years.
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| I'm confused. As There is already a shortlist of 15 grounds.
London - Wembley Stadium.
London - Olympic Stadium.
Manchester - Old Trafford.
Manchester - Etihad Stadium.
Liverpool - Anfield.
Sheffield - Bramell Lane.
Coventry - Ricoh Arena.
Newcastle - St James Park.
Hull - Kcom Stadium.
Huddersfield - John Smith Stadium.
Doncaster - Keepmoat Stadium.
Wigan - DW Stadium.
Leeds - Headingley.
St Helens - Langtree park.
Warrington - Hellwell Jones stadium.
And that we are to lose one of these grounds, to make a total of 14.
Good news is its going to be a 16 country tournament again.
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| [urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/27/england-rugby-league-world-cup-2021-hosts[/url
Quote home gamesEngland’s bid for competition included target to attract one million spectators '"
31 games and if we assume the OT sells out for the Final, then 925,000/30 = 31,000 average.......we need to pick large stadiums and then FILL THEM! About 54,000 fans attend SL games each week and that's the minimum attendance figure we should expect for each of Englands 3 Pool games....then filling a 60k+ stadium for their QF and if the semi-finals are a double header then FILL WEMBLEY.
I am struggling to see how Lebanon v Canada is going to attract 31k, so we really need to get the England games all over 50k.
That Sun article mentioned France getting "home games".....is there any credence in that and if so, then they need to be targeting over 100k for their games.....
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| Quote luke ShipleyRed="luke ShipleyRed"I'm confused. As There is already a shortlist of 15 grounds.
London - Wembley Stadium.
London - Olympic Stadium.
Manchester - Old Trafford.
Manchester - Etihad Stadium.
Liverpool - Anfield.
Sheffield - Bramell Lane.
Coventry - Ricoh Arena.
Newcastle - St James Park.
Hull - Kcom Stadium.
Huddersfield - John Smith Stadium.
Doncaster - Keepmoat Stadium.
Wigan - DW Stadium.
Leeds - Headingley.
St Helens - Langtree park.
Warrington - Hellwell Jones stadium.
And that we are to lose one of these grounds, to make a total of 14.
Good news is its going to be a 16 country tournament again.'"
Surely Castleford’s and Wakefield’s new grounds will be hosting games?
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"we need to pick large stadiums and then FILL THEM! About 54,000 fans attend SL games each week and that's the minimum attendance figure we should expect for each of Englands 3 Pool games.'"
Tell me, have you ever visited planet earth?

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| Quote Sir Kevin Sinfield="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Surely Castleford’s and Wakefield’s new grounds will be hosting games?'"
I got that list off Wikipedia. So I presume that these are the grounds that the rfl put forward in the original bid.
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| GROUPS: Headingley, Halliwell Jones, Langtree, DW, John Smith Stadium, Ricoh Arena, Bramell Lane, KCOM Stadium.
QF: Ethiad Stadium, Anfield, St James Park, Olympic Stadium
SF: Wembley
F: Old Trafford.
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| Quote Muggins="Muggins"Tell me, have you ever visited planet earth?
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I'm not the one who claimed that if given the tournament that I'd get a Million spectators, but if there is to be any chance of getting that number, then the England games (hopefully 6 of them) all need massive gates, because Lebanon v Canada isn't going to cut it.....
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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."QF: Ethiad Stadium, Anfield, St James Park, Olympic Stadium'"
Capacities:
Ethiad 55000
Anfield 54000
SJP 52000
OS 66000
2013 world cup quarter final attendances:
16200
5800
22300 (that was England at Wigan and I don't think that sold out)
13000
Other than wishful thinking and without relying upon the usual 'if the RFL marketed it properly', what possible reason is there for selecting those stadiums for the QF stage? One of those stadiums MIGHT be ok for an England QF - even then I think a 30000 capacity would be more realistic - but for the other QF they would make RL look ridiculous again.
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| Quote Muggins="Muggins"Capacities:
Ethiad 55000
Anfield 54000
SJP 52000
OS 66000
2013 world cup quarter final attendances:
16200
5800
22300 (that was England at Wigan and I don't think that sold out)
13000
Other than wishful thinking and without relying upon the usual 'if the RFL marketed it properly', what possible reason is there for selecting those stadiums for the QF stage? One of those stadiums MIGHT be ok for an England QF - even then I think a 30000 capacity would be more realistic - but for the other QF they would make RL look ridiculous again.'"
If you think small, you'll get small.
I'd rather they sold RLWC 21 Tickets at a tenner a pop starting now and get promoting it to schools in the areas where there will be games. Get local schools to "adopt" a country like this [urlhttps://www.usasevens.com/las-vegas/adopt-a-country-program/[/url.
If England can't attract 50k to their pool games then the target of 1,000,000 will never be hit......the other lot got 2.5 million through the gates...Samoa v Japan in Milton Keynes got 30k.......yet you're suggesting England play in 30k stadiums?
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| Quote Muggins="Muggins"Other than wishful thinking and without relying upon the usual 'if the RFL marketed it properly',.'"
But that's all the keyboard RL market experts have, along with "throw a load of money at it" which is quite easy when "money" is just a word on their computer screen and they don't have any responsibility of it and using it correctly.
So many on here could get a sold out Olympic Stadium for Lebanon vs Fiji in a QF if they were running the show don't you know.
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"But that's all the keyboard RL market experts have, along with "throw a load of money at it" which is quite easy when "money" is just a word on their computer screen and they don't have any responsibility of it and using it correctly.
So many on here could get a sold out Olympic Stadium for Lebanon vs Fiji in a QF if they were running the show don't you know.'"
There's a massive difference between Keyboard RL Market experts and just accepting where we are. The RFL "bigged it up" and claimed 1,000,000 spectators......to achieve this then the games featuring the host nation will need to be the best attended series of games for England/GB RL since the 97 tour.
As for "money" being thrown at it, I would much rather they tried to attract attention as opposed to just accepting that we'll only ever fill small stadiums for small games.....how do you think the other lot managed to get 30k in Brighton for Samoa v USA?
The organisers have 4 years in which to attract 1,000,000 spectators to 31 games across the UK..........iI'd suggest they roll up their sleeves and get on with it!
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