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Quote: Chris Dalton "Listen, there's no need. These two stadiums are set in stone so don't you worry. I've seen sketch after sketch regarding these bad boys and we've got waterparks, theme parks, zoos and revolving restaurants attached to them. They are set in stone. Golden. About to start any day now.

Any day...now. Honest.'"



Never mind Whelden Road and Belle Vue, what about the iconic national treasure that is Odsal ?
Maybe the All New Bulls could groundshare at Headingley or Huddersfield ?

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No longer an issue, since being ' Iconic ' became more important than clean toilets and unobstructed views both BV and WR are fine for another 50 years icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Chris Dalton "Listen, there's no need. These two stadiums are set in stone so don't you worry. I've seen sketch after sketch regarding these bad boys and we've got waterparks, theme parks, zoos and revolving restaurants attached to them. They are set in stone. Golden. About to start any day now.

Any day...now. Honest.'"


Managed a whole season in SL, feeling a bit cocky are we icon_rolleyes.gif

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it would all end up in tears, for the first year or so it might work, but if the support dropped like some fans think it will, the RFL will put presser on and the M, word will materialize again and the same thing what happened with Hull, & Gateshead, & the Giants & Eagles, will happen again one name will be dropped, and i would not want that to happen to Cas or Waky, so hopefully Newmarket will get built, and Cas get a new ground, or re-develop Welden Road, we might not have the new shiny tin at WR, but we do own the ground, we don't lodge, at a football ground or have to pay more than we bring in to the club in rent, there is only one big shat hole in the SL and thats the iconic land fill called Odsel

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Quote: vastman "Managed a whole season in SL, feeling a bit cocky are we
With Cas and Wakey around Widnes fans have good reason to get cocky. A good first season and new players coming in the days of Widnes being at risk are long gone.

As for ground sharing you never know what will happen. With new grounds, the best policy is to believe it will happen when it actually gets built. Until then is is pretty pictures and hot air. If one gets built and the other falls through you would suspect it will be near impossible to have seperate grounds. Until then both teams will continue to push forward for there prefered site.

The problem with there being one ground is you suspect/fear there will in the end only be one team.

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Quote: vastman "Managed a whole season in SL, feeling a bit cocky are we
icon_neutral.gif But I've always been this cocky.

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Quote: frank5613 "it would all end up in tears, for the first year or so it might work, but if the support dropped like some fans think it will, the RFL will put presser on and the M, word will materialize again and the same thing what happened with Hull, & Gateshead, & the Giants & Eagles, will happen again one name will be dropped, and i would not want that to happen to Cas or Waky, so hopefully Newmarket will get built, and Cas get a new ground, or re-develop Welden Road, we might not have the new shiny tin at WR, but we do own the ground, we don't lodge, at a football ground or have to pay more than we bring in to the club in rent, there is only one big shat hole in the SL and thats the iconic land fill called Odsel'"

Its not the 'new shiny tin' which is important. Fact is that grounds get, attendances. If Wakefield or Cas were, or ever had been, able to get crowds which made top level fully pro, rugby league sustainable then no-one would really care where they were playing. But they arent getting those crowds, and havent shown that they will get them, especially in those stadiums which actively put people off.

People dont want Cas and Wakefield to move for the sake of it, its so that Cas and Wakefield are clubs which can spend the full SC, a bigger, SC, can promote the game, can bring new fans and players through, so that they arent just surviving at the bottom of SL with teams full of substandard imports.

Have a go at Odsal all you want, but there is a real and obvious quantitative measure of Odsal, Wheldon Road and Belle Vue, one which shows that numerous times over the last 15 years, Bradford have had an average gate at odsal, which is more than either Wheldon Road or Belle Vue could physically hold.

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Remind me again, which club has just gone ' tits up ' ?

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Quote: Starbug "Remind me again, which club has just gone ' tits up ' ?'"

Yeah, thats the argument to take when comparing Bradford to Wakefield and Cas. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Yeah, thats the argument to take when comparing Bradford to Wakefield and Cas.
The point being Bradford can get them through the gates, if they charge peanuts for entry, something I suspect Wakey have been a little guilty of last season

But long term ( or short term in Bradfords case ) it doesnt work

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Its not the 'new shiny tin' which is important. Fact is that poop grounds get, poop attendances. If Wakefield or Cas were, or ever had been, able to get crowds which made top level fully pro, rugby league sustainable then no-one would really care where they were playing. But they arent getting those crowds, and havent shown that they will get them, especially in those stadiums which actively put people off.

People dont want Cas and Wakefield to move for the sake of it, its so that Cas and Wakefield are clubs which can spend the full SC, a bigger, SC, can promote the game, can bring new fans and players through, so that they arent just surviving at the bottom of SL with teams full of substandard imports.

Have a go at Odsal all you want, but there is a real and obvious quantitative measure of Odsal, Wheldon Road and Belle Vue, one which shows that numerous times over the last 15 years, Bradford have had an average gate at odsal, which is more than either Wheldon Road or Belle Vue could physically hold.'"


Remind me how many imports Cas had last season?
Remind me how many we have this season?
Remind me how many homegrown players we have?

Now compare and contrast with other clubs.

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Quote: Starbug "The point being Bradford can get them through the gates, if they charge peanuts for entry, something I suspect Wakey have been a little guilty of last season

But long term ( or short term in Bradfords case ) it doesnt work'"

Bradford didnt charge peanuts, and they had great attendances for many many seasons.

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Quote: Fully "Remind me how many imports Cas had last season?
Remind me how many we have this season?
Remind me how many homegrown players we have?

Now compare and contrast with other clubs.'"

Remind me where you finished?
Remind me the last time they qualified for the play-offs?
Remind me when the last time they contested a final, never mind won one?

Now compare and contrast with other clubs.

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