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Warrington Grand Final winners, Castleford for the Cup, Quins to finish bottom and Widnes get their SL license although I woudn't like to predict who they'll replace.

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Probably us: lose our licence in July, win the Cup in August. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "Warrington Grand Final winners, Castleford for the Cup, Quins to finish bottom and Widnes get their SL license although I woudn't like to predict who they'll replace.'"

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[quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. :CLAP: [/quote:1xb0p6sn] [quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg



Quote: windy one 2010 "Quins will not finish bottom remind you in September
If crusaders get a 6 point fine I can't see past them for bottom.

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Wigan
Saints
Warrington
Leeds
Hudds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Bradford
Catalans
Salford
Cas
Crusaders
Quins
Wakey

WCC - Wigan

GF - Wigan

CC - Saints

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1) Wigan (as much as I hate to admit it they are an awesome team and i wouldnt bet against them finishing top again)
2) Wire (with an extra years experience of handling the pressure of being a genuine contender we can go one better than last year)
3) Leeds (they underachieved last year but they will be back strong next season)
4) St Helens (i see not everyone agrees but i think playing home games at widnes will take its toll)
5) Hull KR (on their day they are a match for anyone they just need more consistency)
6) Huddersfield (while not being spectacular they are a far better team than their pathetic support deserves)
7) Hull FC (an average mid table finish from a very average team)
8. Salford (with their new signings and with the feel good factor at the club due to the confirmation of the new stadium i can see them sneaking into the play offs)
9) Bradford (i can see it being a long way back for the former giants of the game)
10) Castleford (on their day they can surprise most teams but they have too weak a squad to be taken that seriously)
11) Catalans (A very hard team to beat at home but equally poor away)
12) Crusaders (Massively over-achieved last season, i cant see it happening again)
13) Wakefield (Everyone at the club will know the club is a dead man walking as far as losing their SL place is concerned which wont do much to motivate the team)
14) Harlequins (terrible at home, even worse away, poor support at home and none away they are a disgrace to the SL)

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predict huddersfield get underestimated again... icon_biggrin.gif

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Wigan - Added impressively to an already formidable squad.
St Helens - Some decent additions should make them stronger and maybe a little less predictable.
Warrington - Added an extra dimension with Hodgson.
Leeds - Always strong and will be again.
Hull KR - Added what was needed. Extra punch in the pack and a new S/O
Huddersfield - Seem to have lost a bit of squad depth but should still go well.
Bradford - Added much needed depth to their squad and already have some good players.
Hull FC - I dont see any improvement in their squad. They have replaced a winger with a winger of equal standard and have added to their array of loose forwards with another one. Injuries again could ruin their season, the depth of their squad isn't great.

not sure about the rest to be honest, but i think crusaders and quins will struggle.

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1. Wigan
2. Saints RL
3. Huddersfield
4. Warrington
5. Hull FC
6. Leeds
7. Bradford
8. Hull KR
9. Castleford
10. Catalans
11. Salford
12. Crusaders
13. Wakefield
14. Harlequins

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Quote: jonnythewire "1) 14) Harlequins (terrible at home, even worse away, poor support at home and none away they are a disgrace to the SL)'"

Yeah...they are real disgrace to SL......Full of local lads, a Young English coach, Englands top try scorer at the 4 nations and well under the cap and quota regulations.....not forgetting debt free. Yep...a real disgrace icon_rolleyes.gif

Wire were the better team by 72 points over 2 games in 2010.....Quins by 52 in 2009. Average score betwen the teams since 2000 season is 23-29 to Wire.....a real slaughter statistic icon_rolleyes.gif 24 games, 13 Wire, 11 Quins....god, we are a disgrace...you were so right icon_rolleyes.gif
Back on thread.
Wigan to win it......Crusaders, Wakey, Quins to fight over the wooden spoon and St Helens to win the CC.

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1. Wigan - the stronger get stronger.
2. St Helens - the loss of Cunningham could effect them but have recruited well, the slowest back 3 in the comp?
3. Wire - A good settled squad with a extra dimension at fb, their important players are ageing but Myler could come of age.
4. Hull FC - Sharp replaces Calderwood who only played 4 games and Westerman get a chance to play along side a true great of the game, competed well with out a settled half back pairing last season keeping them and their other ageing players fit is key.
5. Hull KR - Green will be steady, Mason can destroy side out wide, Hall will get heavily protected in defence. Like Wire, Fc and Leeds alot will depend on their ageing players.
6. Leeds - have their signings improved them? I don't think so. Webb, Senior, Cross, Peacock and Buderus have seen better years.
7. Huddersfield - when was the last time team mates exchanged punches in a game? Brough v O'Donnell should be a belter.
8. Bradford - They look well balanced but with no real quality in the backs.
9. Les Cats
10. Cas
11. Salford
12. Wakefield
13. London
14. Crusaders

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Interesting season next year.

1) Wigan, Lima and Hoffman will add the forward power Wigan sometimes lacked.
2 to 6) could be anyone from:
Warrington, age might just catch up with them.
Leeds, could struggle early doors without Peacock.
St Helens, same problem with Perry and,possibly, Shenton, but still look better up front.
Huddersfield, O'Donnell will add strength to the pack, still not sure about their front row.
Hull KR, IF Mason turns up and performs, will have improved.
7) Hull FC, only real quality signing is Westermann, but they still have a good team.
8/9) Salford or Bradford, really depends on which team can gel the quickest.
10) Castleford, they'll be hit hard by the loss of Shenton and Westermann.
11 - 14) anyone from:
Catalans, might struggle again this season.
Crusaders, with everything going on they're going to struggle.
Wakefield
Quins.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Edit.....i'm an idiot!

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Huddersfield
Saints
Hull
Bradford
Hull KR
Salford
Catalans
Castleford
Quins
Wakefield
Crusaders'"



are you serious about the mighty Saints ??? - I think Cats will be higher than The Reds

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Quote: sanjunien "
Quote: sanjunien "Edit.....i'm an idiot!

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Huddersfield
Saints
Hull
Bradford
Hull KR
Salford
Catalans
Castleford
Quins
Wakefield
Crusaders'"



are you serious about the mighty Saints ??? - I think Cats will be higher than The Reds'"


Where did Catalans finish last year? I fail to see how they've strengthened from last season, especially, when they seem to have lost some key players.

Salford's most important signings have been largely missed. The appointment of two fulltime assistant coaches and a new strength and conditioning coach. Who, surely, can't be any worse than Andy Haigh!!! Add to that, the extra attacking ability of Feka, Patten, Anderson and Wild. There are many ifs and buts surrounding Salford next season, but the extra coaching support for McRae and the new players added to the likes of: Smith, Ratchford, Holdsworth, one of the best stand offs in the league, Cashmere, Sidlow, Gibson and Broughton, and we've got one hell of a team next season.

This said, many of the top 8 seem to have made some really important signings. So I'm not too confident of a big improvement, table wise, but, performance wise, teams shouldn't be taking us lightly next season!!!!! Who knows, maybe McRae will, finally, get his MOJO back.

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Catalans have strengthened well imo and simply cannot be as bad as last year with injuries and whatnot.

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