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| Quote: a.n Other "If thats is the case, then would you stop relegation from the Championship?'"
I would stop "automatic" relegation/promotion between them two leagues.
There will obviously be club that have a good team but would never be able to afford to compete at a higher level due to finances, ground facilities, etc. If they pass criteria needed to get into the Championship (which most of the top Championship 1 sides would) then it wouldn't be an issue.
I see it much in the same way as SL was when it still had promotion and relegation. If a team that clearly wasn't up to standard won the league (like Hunslet and Dewsbury) then they wouldn't go up. In this example, if a team like Hemel won and they only had a ground that held 500 people (I don't know this, I'm just being hypothetical) then they clearly wouldn't be able to make the step up.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "I would stop "automatic" relegation/promotion between them two leagues.
There will obviously be club that have a good team but would never be able to afford to compete at a higher level due to finances, ground facilities, etc. If they pass criteria needed to get into the Championship (which most of the top Championship 1 sides would) then it wouldn't be an issue.
I see it much in the same way as SL was when it still had promotion and relegation. If a team that clearly wasn't up to standard won the league (like Hunslet and Dewsbury) then they wouldn't go up. In this example, if a team like Hemel won and they only had a ground that held 500 people (I don't know this, I'm just being hypothetical) then they clearly wouldn't be able to make the step up.'"
I can see the sense in that. But will it do away with teams in that league chasing being in the CC, and over spending? Its a dificult one to judge.
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| Quote: a.n Other "I can see the sense in that. But will it do away with teams in that league chasing being in the CC, and over spending? Its a dificult one to judge.'"
What is the difference between the two respective league's salary caps? The problem clubs have with overspending is the step up needed for the salaries between the two leagues in order to stay competitive (HUGE jump in SL as it is part time to full time).
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "What is the difference between the two respective league's salary caps? The problem clubs have with overspending is the step up needed for the salaries between the two leagues in order to stay competitive (HUGE jump in SL as it is part time to full time).'"
If you want to lower the standards in CC1 you would have to drop the Salary cap for that division. So the differnce could end up quite significant.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "I would stop "automatic" relegation/promotion between them two leagues.
There will obviously be club that have a good team but would never be able to afford to compete at a higher level due to finances, ground facilities, etc. If they pass criteria needed to get into the Championship (which most of the top Championship 1 sides would) then it wouldn't be an issue.
I see it much in the same way as SL was when it still had promotion and relegation. If a team that clearly wasn't up to standard won the league (like Hunslet and Dewsbury) then they wouldn't go up. In this example, if a team like Hemel won and they only had a ground that held 500 people (I don't know this, I'm just being hypothetical) then they clearly wouldn't be able to make the step up.'"
In summary therefore the actual playing of the game and the results are of secondary importance.
Glad that's clarified.
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| Quote: a.n Other "If you want to lower the standards in CC1 you would have to drop the Salary cap for that division. So the differnce could end up quite significant.'"
Do the lower leagues still employ the 50% ruling? Could be a factor.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "In summary therefore the actual playing of the game and the results are of secondary importance.
Glad that's clarified.'"
There are two parts to professional sport. You have to compete off the field as well.
What professional sports league do you know that doesn't have standards for promotion?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "There are two parts to professional sport. You have to compete off the field as well.
What professional sports league do you know that doesn't have standards for promotion?'"
Tennis. (Davis Cup).
Soccer (World Cup qualifying - eg, San Marino)
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| Quote: littlerich "Tennis. (Davis Cup)
Soccer (World Cup qualifying - eg, San Marino)'"
You don't get promoted in the World Cup qualifiers. You "qualify" for a tournament held in a nation (a nation which has to have standards in order to be the host).
And I don't know anything about Tennis. Do they have to play home games, etc.? (geniune question).
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "You don't get promoted in the World Cup qualifiers. You "qualify" for a tournament held in a nation (a nation which has to have standards in order to be the host).
And I don't know anything about Tennis. Do they have to play home games, etc.? (geniune question).'"
I don't know to be honest. I'm wrong on both counts i think
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Do the lower leagues still employ the 50% ruling? Could be a factor.'"
I dont think it is anymore. Could be wrong though.
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| Quote: littlerich "I don't know to be honest. I'm wrong on both counts i think Why would any big backer ( apart from an RL Fan ) put money into a new RL Team joining the Championship? Leeds Rhinos can't even make much of a profit! Widnes Doncaster Gateshead oldham Whitehaven Rochdale, the list of clubs who have been in administration or very very near is just getting longer and longer. Apart from a French club maybe I can't see ANY new semi pro teams joining the league.
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| Why would any big backer ( apart from an RL Fan ) put money into a new RL Team joining the Championship? Leeds Rhinos can't even make much of a profit! Widnes Doncaster Gateshead oldham Whitehaven Rochdale, the list of clubs who have been in administration or very very near is just getting longer and longer. Apart from a French club maybe I can't see ANY new semi pro teams joining the league.
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| Quote: spooneryork "Why would any big backer ( apart from an RL Fan ) put money into a new RL Team joining the Championship? Leeds Rhinos can't even make much of a profit! Widnes Doncaster Gateshead oldham Whitehaven Rochdale, the list of clubs who have been in administration or very very near is just getting longer and longer. Apart from a French club maybe I can't see ANY new semi pro teams joining the league.'"
Huddersfield?
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