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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "I think this is potentially all reward and no risk for the RFL, the backers also seem like the sort of people we want in our sport.

My biggest question, and one which I have been thinking about in terms of Catalan, is what is the long term plan. While on one hand it's great to be welcoming new teams and markets (and in Catalans case it finally seems like new contenders) should we be happy with just the odd team from here and the odd team from there?

Imo the goal has to be to get them involved with our structure, make sure their competitive and well run, then send them back in a couple of years with all the information and infrastructure they've gained to set up a competitive professional league.

That should be the long term goal.'"



wouldnt suprise me if superleague ended up like the super 15s southern hemisphere union in 10 years time

clubs in 3 or 4 countries, we'll have uk, france, canada maybe usa

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant ""no thought for the fans" is one of my favourites from the luddites this evening.'"


Seen an irate Warrington fan who thinks it's "ridiculous" that they've been allowed to have the name Wolfpack and the RFL should've made them change it as its too similar to Warrington's Wolves name.

Can't wait to see a picture of 3 Toronto fans stood next to a wall with the name "Wolvepack" written on it icon_smile.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "100% correct.
yet unfortunately our system puts teams in Super League based solely on on field results.'"


icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif "it's a cracker" !

Does Richard 'Geek' Lewis still work at the RFL ?

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God help one of the SL clubs in the mid 8s next year. They'll probably be sacrificial lambs to the great god SKY.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Budgiezilla "icon_lol.gif No, having put the game on a path towards more than a decade of growth, tired of the internecine struggles and vested interests, Richard Lewis left for more pay, prestige and to run a competition with a world wide profile.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "No, having put the game on a path towards more than a decade of growth, tired of the internecine struggles and vested interests, Richard Lewis left for more pay, prestige and to run a competition with a world wide profile.'"


But what do we do with the likes of Oxford, Hemel, South Wales, Coventry, Gloucester, & Newcastle. Try and find those clubs a 'multi-millionaire' backer like Toronto have, and let them exceed the salary cap so they can go full-time, sign decent players etc ? IT'S NOT WORKING WITH THOSE TEAMS (where none of the fans wear flat caps), where should we try next, I know, Canada ! FANTASTIC IDEA.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Budgiezilla "But what do we do with the likes of Oxford, Hemel, South Wales, Coventry, Gloucester, & Newcastle. Try and find those clubs a 'multi-millionaire' backer like Toronto have, and let them exceed the salary cap so they can go full-time, sign decent players etc ? IT'S NOT WORKING WITH THOSE TEAMS (where none of the fans wear flat caps), where should we try next, I know, Canada ! FANTASTIC IDEA.'"

its not working with the flat cap sides either.

There is more point in trying and failing with Toronto or Toulouse than trying and failing again with Leigh or Halifax or Oldham

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Budgiezilla "But what do we do with the likes of Oxford, Hemel, South Wales, Coventry, Gloucester, & Newcastle. Try and find those clubs a 'multi-millionaire' backer like Toronto have, and let them exceed the salary cap so they can go full-time, sign decent players etc ? IT'S NOT WORKING WITH THOSE TEAMS (where none of the fans wear flat caps), where should we try next, I know, Canada ! FANTASTIC IDEA.'"
If you or anyone else can find those clubs a millionaire backer or even any kind of backer then that would be great.

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Quote: headhunter "If you or anyone else can find those clubs a millionaire backer or even any kind of backer then that would be great.'"

Newcastle has one, he just spends his money on the union team!

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Quote: SmokeyTA "its not working with the flat cap sides either.

There is more point in trying and failing with Toronto or Toulouse than trying and failing again with Leigh or Halifax or Oldham'"


very funny. Personally I think the RFL should target Africa next, how about Chad ? Always wanted to go there, imagine (for example) Chad Invincibles v Leigh Centurions....BRING IT ON ! icon_biggrin.gif

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Budgiezilla "very funny. Personally I think the RFL should target Africa next, how about Chad ? Always wanted to go there, imagine (for example) Chad Invincibles v Leigh Centurions....BRING IT ON !
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Quote: Budgiezilla "very funny. Personally I think the RFL should target Africa next, how about Chad ? Always wanted to go there, imagine (for example) Chad Invincibles v Leigh Centurions....BRING IT ON !
www.rlef.eu.com/news/article/122 ... joins-rlef


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Quote: Budgiezilla "very funny. Personally I think the RFL should target Africa next, how about Chad ? Always wanted to go there, imagine (for example) Chad Invincibles v Leigh Centurions....BRING IT ON !
Prime example of one of the Luddites spotted on social media this evening.

Coincidentally, they're often fans of a 'flatcap' club, languishing in the Championship/League 1. It must be fear. How dare a new club be better funded, better run, be more ambitious and contribute more than a 'flatcap' club. How dare they? Don't they realise this is Rugby League, where we keep having to undersell ourselves in order for those small time flatcap clubs to keep up?

The RFL didn't "target" Toronto. Toronto targeted the RFL and their competitions, so your analogy of the RFL targeting Chad is misplaced. Although it wouldn't take too much for Chad Invincibles to contribute more to the table than Leigh do currently.

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No need to be bitchy ! So if Hull FC were based in a small town, owned their own goround (imagine that) attracted around 700 fans, but had no backer, and were in championship one, you'd be 'all for' WORLD EXPANSION wouldn't you! Folk like you make me laugh, all the 'expansion lovers' are 95% fans of teams who have only ever been in Super League...."we're alright jack, and all that !" How many other UK Sports 'FEEL THE NEED' to have overseas teams in their domestic leagues ? It's not ground breaking, it's pathetic. Catalan Dragons are having an amazing season so far, but when France play England next time around, they will have no chance of winning (as per usual)'. That's progress for you. Hopefully in a few years, Canada will be able to beat the Chad 'national team'!

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Budgiezilla "No need to be bitchy ! So if Hull FC were based in a small town, owned their own goround (imagine that) attracted around 700 fans, but had no backer, and were in championship one, you'd be 'all for' WORLD EXPANSION wouldn't you! Folk like you make me laugh, all the 'expansion lovers' are 95% fans of teams who have only ever been in Super League...."we're alright jack, and all that !" How many other UK Sports 'FEEL THE NEED' to have overseas teams in their domestic leagues ? It's not ground breaking, it's pathetic. Catalan Dragons are having an amazing season so far, yet when they England next time around, the French team will still get 'thrashed'. That's progress for you. Hopefully in a few years, Canada will be able to beat the Chad 'national team'!'"
Chad do not have a 'national team' but last year Canada were able to draw with a Jamaica side that had a large number of Championship players such as Omari Caro, Joel Farrell and Wayne Reittie.

www.rlef.eu.com/wcq/report?RLE00000665

BTW the Toronto team was unanimously voted in by the rest of the League One clubs.
Quote: Budgiezilla "No need to be bitchy ! So if Hull FC were based in a small town, owned their own goround (imagine that) attracted around 700 fans, but had no backer, and were in championship one, you'd be 'all for' WORLD EXPANSION wouldn't you! Folk like you make me laugh, all the 'expansion lovers' are 95% fans of teams who have only ever been in Super League...."we're alright jack, and all that !" How many other UK Sports 'FEEL THE NEED' to have overseas teams in their domestic leagues ? It's not ground breaking, it's pathetic. Catalan Dragons are having an amazing season so far, yet when they England next time around, the French team will still get 'thrashed'. That's progress for you. Hopefully in a few years, Canada will be able to beat the Chad 'national team'!'"
Chad do not have a 'national team' but last year Canada were able to draw with a Jamaica side that had a large number of Championship players such as Omari Caro, Joel Farrell and Wayne Reittie.

www.rlef.eu.com/wcq/report?RLE00000665

BTW the Toronto team was unanimously voted in by the rest of the League One clubs.


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Quote: Budgiezilla "No need to be bitchy ! So if Hull FC were based in a small town, owned their own goround (imagine that) attracted around 700 fans, but had no backer, and were in championship one, you'd be 'all for' WORLD EXPANSION wouldn't you! Folk like you make me laugh, all the 'expansion lovers' are 95% fans of teams who have only ever been in Super League...."we're alright jack, and all that !" How many other UK Sports 'FEEL THE NEED' to have overseas teams in their domestic leagues ? It's not ground breaking, it's pathetic. Catalan Dragons are having an amazing season so far, but when France play England next time around, they will have no chance of winning (as per usual)'. That's progress for you. Hopefully in a few years, Canada will be able to beat the Chad 'national team'!'"


There is a club in Hull which fits my description perfectly. Like Leigh, they're small time and contribute the square root of fk all to the sport. And Hull FC haven't always been in Superleague. 1997 was one of my most memorable seasons in fact.

The sport has to at some point move forward, and they wont do with badly run, small clubs holding the good ones back. If Leigh or any other club feel threatened by it, then it's time to up their game.

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