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| Quote: McClennan "Surely at least one of those would give him a British passport. If he's not got a British passport then letting him play for us is madness. I'm okay with adopted citizens playing for a UK team but surely you'd have to have passport. What kind of crazy employment system are we running here where he can play for England but then needs a visa to work here?'"
I think it'd be easier to argue that it is the qualifications required to play for England RL are crazy, rather than the employment system. But they don't look very different to RU, for example, or possibly cricket (could be wrong on the latter, not really up on it).
The laws of the country and the rules of RL are not integrated; though its clear which take precedence. The England RL team has no official legal standing.
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| Quote: Him "Bird was probably allowed in as a Sports Visitor.
But his visa is valid for 3 years or until he changes employment, so I doubt UKBA will have been doing background checks every time he comes back into the country, they'll just check his visa is current, which it is. It's only now that he's had to apply to extend his visa that he may find problems. It depends if UKBA have relaxed their stance or not from a couple of years ago.'"
Bird still had to satisfy the general immigration rules for each entry, regardless of how he was coming in, which was my beef at the time, but that's past history.
I would hope, not just cos he's apparently off to Hull, that the fact Rangi got back in after declaring the conviction means he shouldn't have problem now. UKBA can't have it both ways.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Bird still had to satisfy the general immigration rules for each entry, regardless of how he was coming in, which was my beef at the time, but that's past history.
I would hope, not just cos he's apparently off to Hull, that the fact Rangi got back in after declaring the conviction means he shouldn't have problem now. UKBA can't have it both ways.'"
The only problem I can imagine is time - getting it done before the deadline - if its a double check job. And Kosh reckons Crocker was registered without a visa - if so it doesn't matter. Or maybe it does because would Hull pay Cas to transfer the registration without being 100% certain a visa would be granted? Head hurts. Somebody will know whats going on and even if they worked for the HDM (and tbf journalists can't be experts on every subject they have to knock out copy on), they'll spin it out to the last.
I'd be (at least slightly) surprised if he isn't sorted by friday. Timely boost and all that.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "I think it'd be easier to argue that it is the qualifications required to play for England RL are crazy, rather than the employment system. But they don't look very different to RU, for example, or possibly cricket (could be wrong on the latter, not really up on it).
The laws of the country and the rules of RL are not integrated; though its clear which take precedence. The England RL team has no official legal standing.'"
That is madness although I'm sure his status as an England player should be more than enough to comply with a visa. Deporting a current England international would be ludicrous.
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| Well this thread was a bit premature. Obviously someone got a bit over excited.
Chase unable to gain new visa before deadline. Won't be playing for Hull this season.
Hull may try to sign him for next season, apparently there's a shortlist of 4 halfbacks that we're looking into.
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| Quote: Panda92 "Chase unable to gain new visa before deadline. Won't be playing for Hull this season.'"
I imagine someone at Cas will be in for a right kicking - their refusal to take the offers that were made for Chase earlier in the season has left them with a player who doesn't want to play for the club, a massive salary to pay for the rest of this year and a large, £300k shaped hole in their bank account.
You couldn't make it up!
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| Quote: Gronk! "Manu Tuilagi also seemed to have a bit of a Visa issue before he made his debut for England RU IIRC.
Also worth noting Grant Millington has said Chase has been training "really hard" all week with Cas.'"
All that means is he has gone from pints to shots.
He is on his way. The only question is when.
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| Quote: bren2k "I imagine someone at Cas will be in for a right kicking - their refusal to take the offers that were made for Chase earlier in the season has left them with a player who doesn't want to play for the club, a massive salary to pay for the rest of this year and a large, £300k shaped hole in their bank account.
You couldn't make it up!'"
It also leaves them with a lot of bad feeling amongst their fans to one of their key players. Not good.
It's ridiculous that he's able to play for England if he struggles to get a Visa to work in the country. He should not have played for England.
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| Quote: Panda92 "It's ridiculous that he's able to play for England if he struggles to get a Visa to work in the country. He should not have played for England.'"
Or shouldn't have got a visa?
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| Confucius say: International eligibility and nationality are not the same
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| I still think he is rubbish and i would sooner have dobson and green any day I would not have him at rovers if he was free and i don't think he should play for England
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| Quote: cravenpark1 "eusa_naughty.gif I still think he is rubbish and i would sooner have dobson and green any day I would not have him at rovers if he was free and i don't think he should play for England
Well, that's told us hasn't it!!!
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| Quote: McClennan "That is madness although I'm sure his status as an England player should be more than enough to comply with a visa. Deporting a current England international would be ludicrous.'"
Why, he isn't British no matter what country he plays for. If his conviction has made him ineligible for a visa thats his own fault for being stupid.
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| This isn't rugby league being rubbish, incidentally. rlEngland international Darren Pattinson will be classed as an overseas player next season should he re-sign with Nottinghamshirerl. Darren Pattinson was born in Grimsby, for informations sake.
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| if he doesn't now have a visa, how can he stay at Cas?
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