Aye, well done to that paragon of virtue and well known upholder of the one true faith Paul Sculthorpe eh - what was it Andy Farrell called him in that brawl again?

Andy i have never condoned ANY player amature or pro delivering a shoulder barge, in my eyes its a cheap shot. you wont find me "creaming" over anyone receiving an attack from a shoulder barge, as you have witnessed it is done to cause injury usually a facial or concussion one and sometimes a shoulder one to the so called defender......a poor excuse for a tackle by any player.

have a look on a well known video hosting website and search for bailey and rauhihi, and see how quickly our Ry can back pedal when required.

Not sure what he called him to be honest, couldn't give a toss, was a couple of beauties from Scully though.

Ryan Bailey is the greatest wind up merchant in the world. People bang on about how he goes hiding etc. He goes hiding after sparking something off so the opposition can't get a return hit on him, not because he's soft but before he knows it'l put the opposition off their game plan.

I wouldn't swap Ryan for anyone.

Get a grip. So if you were offered Bailey for Burgess in a straight swap? Or Bailey for Graham? Or Bailey for Bailey (NRL stylee)? Or Bailey for Morley? Or Bailey for LMS? Or Bailey for Price?

You're having a giraffe.

When things go slightly off course at Leeds, like the annual exit from the Challenge Cup, he is the first name Leeds fans look to in order to blame the defeats on someone. Yet when you win the GF, it's because Ryan was 'immense'.

I bet he did no more than 5 hit ups in the GF, and I bet he walked more metres to pick up his medal than he made during the game.

it wasnt though was it

Sculthorpe was more than capable of unleashing a couple of beauties, but those really werent. A Punch at a player playing the ball that simply knocked the player into the player behind him wasnt Sculthorpes proudest moment.

Look at him against Australia (Fitzgibbon i think) to see Sculthorpe unleash a couple of beauties, his handbags against Bailey wouldnt even merit a mention if it wasnt Bailey he had hit.

The key word here is team, obviously. Ryan Bailey may not be the best individual prop around, but his job in the team that's won the last 3 GF's is pretty well-defined. Most of the the better individual props named will probably never win 4 GF winners medals for as long as they play.

I think that's what the Stains fans are having trouble grasping. Hope this helps.

If James Graham or Sam Burgess were prepared to come to Leeds for Bailey's supposed salary then yes, I'd consider swapping him them.

Then again, salary cap management isn't the sort of thing that St Helens have got a very good grasp of really is it?

That was funny

Sculthorpe had many free punches and still couldn't put Bailey on his backside.

Rob Burrow, nuff said.

It's funny how some players can get such a reaction and make even the most rational posters froth at the mouth (Fearthevee for example - I expect better from you 3.5810546875:10