Last weekend's attendances

Quote: gutterfax "Saracens crowds to most assuredly give you a very accurate indicator as to which is the bigger code in the UK/England......or do you wish to narrow the criteria further and say Yorkshire? Unless you can find me a recent RL game in SL that attracted an 80k odd crowd to a neutral venue.....regardless of the means by which it was achieved i'd suggest that Union is some way ahead of League in all the important "off-field" aspects.
Speaking of problems faced by the Rugby lot....they have a very strong leadership model that usually gets things sorted. Nobody has ever said they don't face "issues"......what I have always said is that they deal with these issues better.
I may have been remiss in comparing the RFL turn over to Ireland Rugby......Maybe I should have been fairer and used the Scots or Welsh RFU......which incidentally, also both turn over more than the RFL.......but I won't, I'll use the RFU which essentially dwarfs the RFL in all aspects of governance, finance and public awareness. The RFU "domestic enough for you"? '"

Yet more irrelevant drivel.
You don't get it do you? No-one has said RL is bigger. No-one. Yet you come up with all this rubbish to prove a point no-one disputed so that you can feel superior and can try and portray everyone else as insecure.
Tell us again how Saracens crowds, you know significantly lower than Leeds & Wigan's crowds prove it's the far bigger & better run code?
Oh wait, they can't!

Again, you're not getting it. No-one is saying the RFL is bigger or better than the RFU. But go and actually talk to some hardcore RU fans and they'll talk of a similar disillusionment with the governing body as RL fans do.
So there's no need for all that rubbish you posted, everyone knows that already.

Quote: gutterfax "Actually, I think you'll find it was the Loiner idiot who baited the hook and went down this route.....blame him. As for your subsequent insecurity attack....that's really down to you if you can't see the wood for the trees. '"

Ah there's the old "insecurity" line! Don't tell me! I've a chip on my shoulder too!
Once again, you don't get it. Everyone knows Union is bigger internationally and nationally. That still doesn't make every aspect of Union better or perfect. If it were then Saracens wouldn't get an average crowd of only 8,500. But then doesn't fit the agenda does it.

Quote: gutterfax "Alas, being a realist and admitting that the double-header crowds were not actually 67k for each games is far healthier than clinging to some form of security blanket in the reality that the 2nd games at both Cardiff and Wembley were not attended by anything like the numbers that you snuggle up to for comfort. The fact that to cause even a ripple of interest DOMESTICALLY the comp had to use these "event games" shows that the game is learning from the RFU/IRB.......so there's hope yet Except you are wrong. The crowd was 67k for each game. 67k people were admitted to the stadium for those 2 games. To exclude 1 game or half a figure is mathematically and logically wrong. No-one believes 67k turned up to watch the minor game. It still doesn't alter the facts.
And there goes your entire credibility (what little was left after the World Cup thread) with your final sentence. For ages you've been decrying the RFL and RL for not doing as RU did in having event games. Then they do and you decry them for doing so.
But go ahead and produce some more meaningless stats. No-one believes them from you now anyway. Your stats are more dodgy than the Iraq Dossier.