the whole latics thing in PL is a bubble waiting to burst

im surprised their crowds are so poor being in the PL.

It already is! Every team would rather win the champions league than win their own domestic league.

Bubble, Ive lived in 4 other countries, have regularly watched and attended Superleague, NRL, MLB, NFL, NHL to name just a few... Hardly a bubble as you say.

So whats your informed position then? Again far short of running a club, I wont believe what you say. By the way if they dont have tv deals in these countries, how come they show the premier league in those countries??? i know ive seen it in the US, Canada, Australia, Asia....

If they want to pay us up then go ahead, im sure the FA having to pay out all that money will go down well in soccer land when they cant evn afford to sack the overpaid Italian who is the England manager. I wont complain about that.

Look at the teams which go on pre season tours to the US and Asia. When Man Utd leave the US, everybody goes back to watching better sports and forget all about soccer. Teams like Wigan dont do pre-season trips to the US. So tv money is going up, well yea we all know that, but is it inline with the disgusting wages that talentless nobodies demand???

Do you think that these clubs are sustainable? I highly doubt that, if the sugar daddy's walked out tomorrow there will be a few clubs in alot of trouble. We'll see how sustainable it is if the 'Euro league' every started off, when all the big clubs walk out

Im not for once suggesting the rfl can compete with the soccer, but equally the premier legaue cant just have what they want. Wigan have a lease and IF the Premier League decided they wanted sole use stadiums, we wouldnt have to walk anywhere unless it was for a lot of momey.

Right - to end the thread.

If the Premier League want their clubs to not ground share, then they will have to BUY their way into ending the other clubs' leases, OR find alternative grounds for their clubs.

It's is not the Premier League's place to evict other teams from stadiums - the stadiums and the clubs have contracts between themselves, nothing to do with the Premier League.

As a poster pointed out earlier, Wigan Athletic won't be a premier league side for much longer, given their recent performances. Even so, without Dave Whelan's money, Latics wouldn't even be in existence, and if that club doesn't turn a profit soon, Whelan will pull out. Where will they be then?

I'll tell you - Edge Hall Road.

It's not the end of the thread, as there is one aspect that no one seems to have touched on.

Imagine this scenario - a Rugby League Club is sharing with an Football Club (No Hull, not you.). The FC is told it has to get rid of it's ground sharing. They go to the RLC and tell them that they will pay their relocation fees and all other costs.
The RLC takes a look and says 'not good enough, we're stopping, we like it here'.

The FC then has no position from which to lever the RLC out. They couldn't do it in law, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Or at least, last time I looked the PL wasn't a part of the judiciary?


As for Football clubs finances, there will be two more clubs - minimum, they're a definate though - starting to head through the courts in the next 18 months for financial reasons. One of them will not survive. Both are clubs that have quite a history behind them.
I can't add to that at the moment, other than the person who told me this works for a club that is owed a lot of cash by one of these and is a position to know a lot of the ins and outs of that club (ie..not a steward or matchday announcer!)

and thats the bottom line, contracts are legally binding and can not be broken simply because the premier league say they want sole use stadiums. The only way it would happen is if those RL clubs were paid a hell of alot of money, enough to buy a new stadium. Not that I can see wigan council allowing another stadium in town. Non starter.

Wouldnt be surprised if there were more soccer clubs getting into financial dificulties in the next few years. Just the wages alone arent sustainable.

The only short-term, cheap way the Premier League will get this through, is to kick out the FOOBALL clubs that are groundsharing. In other words, Latics get told that if they don't have sole use of their stadium, then they no longer have a place in the elite football league.

exactly - it will be part of the criteria to be part of the Premier League that you have to have single use stadium. Those clubs which cannot meet that criteria by a) buying their tenants out, or b) finding somewhere else to play, wont get a Premier League licence.

Almost sounds familiar that.

Stadium minimum standards? Licensing? Overseas quotas and homegrown player rules?
But hang on, according to certain fans in certain small towns they are ridiculous ideas that no serious, major sports governing body would introduce.

did you read the link before you posted this rubbish?

First post!

Can I just say, as an avid football fan, that most of us want Wigan shipped out of the Premier League never to return again. If they go down this year, I'm optimistic theres a good chance they'll never come back up. Doubt it will be an issue with Wigan...Hull on the other hand