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| I don't think it's fair to have a go about the Paasi tackle, the lad's running full guns at the line and he tackled the legs just like anyone else would. Walmsley tackle doesn't look great though.
It is, however, incredibly rich of Saint Helen's fans who around Grand Final time were gloating about Morgan Knowles getting off scot free after he tried his best to break an opponents arm, to be quite so incandescent about this incident.
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| Quote: Wanderer "Fair point re cannonball and stationary. I don't disagree on malice either. What I'm looking for is something which would prevent direct hits to the knee area (possibly I'm asking too much?) but I really don't want to see players with serious, potentially career ending, injuries. I know I'm not alone in that.'"
I'm 62 & relatively fit, but there is barely a part of my body that doesn't ache on a daily basis, all from playing RL. I know what the effects of the game & foul play can be, so am not taking this situation lightly. But I genuinely don't know how you can tackle from the side, below the waste, without there being some slight chance of an injury to the leg, particularly if you are trying to stop momentum, which is the point of the tackle.
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| Quote: tigertot "I'm 62 & relatively fit, but there is barely a part of my body that doesn't ache on a daily basis, all from playing RL. I know what the effects of the game & foul play can be, so am not taking this situation lightly. But I genuinely don't know how you can tackle from the side, below the waste, without there being some slight chance of an injury to the leg, particularly if you are trying to stop momentum, which is the point of the tackle.'"
Same age, I have aches & pains and haven't played RL since school so I'm sure you're a better judge (although of course we're all allowed thoughts / opinions). Out of curiosity, if I may, how many years did you play and to what level (it seriously is just curiosity)?
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| This pic might not prove anything, but a serious injury could've occurred here during the same game.
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Quote: Wanderer "TheWarrringtonWolve69's post re Leigh and it's supporters removed.
As a result any post quoting that post has gone too.
TheWarringtonWolve69 you need to reign it in!
If you can't debate the issue without resorting to insults please refrain from posting.'"
Or just ban him???
I was hoping to quote his post actually criticising Leigh fans to gauge his opinion on the threats being sent to Asiata.
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leigh-le ... ats-79103/
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Quote: Wanderer "TheWarrringtonWolve69's post re Leigh and it's supporters removed.
As a result any post quoting that post has gone too.
TheWarringtonWolve69 you need to reign it in!
If you can't debate the issue without resorting to insults please refrain from posting.'"
Or just ban him???
I was hoping to quote his post actually criticising Leigh fans to gauge his opinion on the threats being sent to Asiata.
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leigh-le ... ats-79103/
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| Quote: Wanderer "Same age, I have aches & pains and haven't played RL since school so I'm sure you're a better judge (although of course we're all allowed thoughts / opinions). Out of curiosity, if I may, how many years did you play and to what level (it seriously is just curiosity)?'"
I started playing decent level amateur at 19/20 until about 33, with a couple years of semi-pro during that. Amateur is/was brutal with hindsight. It was a badge of honour to play while injured which again I would question with hindsight.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Or just ban him???
I was hoping to quote his post actually criticising Leigh fans to gauge his opinion on the threats being sent to Asiata.
If there are any death threats being made, they need to be reported to the Police and dealt with properly.
Good to see Rohan Smith throw his two penneth behind Wellens. The tackles were the wrong technique and he needs to pack it in. I'm sure he realises it himself, especially if he speaks to Iggy afterwards as they often do when these things occur.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Or just ban him???
I was hoping to quote his post actually criticising Leigh fans to gauge his opinion on the threats being sent to Asiata.
If he's banned you definitely won't get an answer (not from that persona) ... if you want to ask a direct question of him, go for it ... I too would be interested.
You can't really have it both ways though.
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| Quote: tigertot "I started playing decent level amateur at 19/20 until about 33, with a couple years of semi-pro during that. Amateur is/was brutal with hindsight. It was a badge of honour to play while injured which again I would question with hindsight.'"
The semi-pro bit intrigues me, may I ask who with?
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| Quote: Saddened! "If there are any death threats being made, they need to be reported to the Police and dealt with properly.
Good to see Rohan Smith throw his two penneth behind Wellens. The tackles were the wrong technique and he needs to pack it in. I'm sure he realises it himself, especially if he speaks to Iggy afterwards as they often do when these things occur.'"
Good to see Richard Silverwood sharing his view by saying.........
Despite all of this talk and the dismay that Asiata wasn’t banned, Richard Silverwood has gone on social media to explain why the tackle on Paasi wasn’t foul play:
“As much as you don’t like to see players injured, if Holmes isn’t coming in the other side it is a perfect legs tackle by Asiata. It’s the hit low one side, hit high the other that’s bent Paasi In half. Do we go 1 in the tackle next.
I agree with him.
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| Quote: Wanderer "The semi-pro bit intrigues me, may I ask who with?'"
Donny, 'A' team mainly.
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| Quote: tigertot "Donny, 'A' team mainly.'"
I did wonder ... I followed The Dons for over 40 years (until a couple of years ago).
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| Quote: Saddened! "Good to see Rohan Smith throw his two penneth behind Wellens. The tackles were the wrong technique and he needs to pack it in. I'm sure he realises it himself, especially if he speaks to Iggy afterwards as they often do when these things occur.'"
Having now seen a link to the 2 tackles, which I could replay, I would agree it is a technique that might be questionable, but not malicious. The tackle on Paasi I maintain is copybook, with the arms forward & shoulder into the thigh. Without that level of impact Paasi would have been over. I am more questioning of the Walmsley tackle. He effectively throws his body, head first with arms down, in the way of a rampaging Walmsley's legs. It would be virtually impossible to deliberately time that so he hits at the split second Walmsley's foot is planted, but it doesn't look text book in slowmo.
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| Quote: Wanderer "I did wonder ... I followed The Dons for over 40 years (until a couple of years ago).'"
You must be dafter than you appear
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| Quote: Cokey "Good to see Richard Silverwood sharing his view by saying.........
Despite all of this talk and the dismay that Asiata wasn’t banned, Richard Silverwood has gone on social media to explain why the tackle on Paasi wasn’t foul play
He's explaining why it isn't against the rules, there's a difference there. I'm not calling for him to be banned. I'm calling for him to not tackle like that. It will cause injury in 100% of the times it's used. He's just speared his body at the knee joint, there's no attempt in either of them to tackle properly. This talk of wrapping and it being a perfect tackle is nonsense, the intent is to throw his shoulder through his knee, the only debate is whether that's fully intentional or just out of desperation. Either way, there's no justification for it. I've got a DM on Twitter from another referee slaughtering Silverwood for elements of that post. He also makes the same ridiculous links to Morgan Knowles as justification for it, so his opinion is as warped as a lot of the Leigh fans.
If it's a perfectly fine tackle and there's no issues with it, Asiata will continue to do it? It's clearly very effective, so why not. I bet you he doesn't attempt anything remotely like that again this season. He'll have been told not to by Leigh.
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