Were the guys who voted Mcguire & Sam Tomkins watching a different game to everyone else?? Burrow and Leu Lai were the best players on the pitch. Surprised Leu Lai didn't get a vote.

If we're discounting dodgy tries then it would be 16-12 to Wigan.

Astonished by the negativity on here. Superb game, result in doubt until the last couple of minutes, one of the best Wembley tries I've seen in 30+ years, near 80k crowd, didn't see any trouble of any kind, superb atmosphere generated by both sets of fans.

I would have gone for tommy leuluai or rob burrow, but I thought Lima was going to get it on the back of a couple of eye-catching moments.

How embarresing was the final 10 minutes, a forward pass try, a wrong decision on who took the ball out of play and a benefit of the doubt try, just as well we use video technology in our game

Because the "wrong" team won.

Not necessarily. I was undecided who I wanted to win prior to kick off, went for Leeds as I know more Leeds fans, although having Josh at our place last year I was also favouring him.

I think Wigan were the better team, you just had a better edge to you and were a bit more clinical and efficient.

However, the poor decisions made by the officials [idid[/i influence the score, not necessarily the result, but almost certainly the score.

Personally any negativity from me is on the basis we were robbed of a classic.

That game was as intense, as high a quality as I have seen for a long time. The two sets of players deserved us talking about them, about their skills, about Joel Tomkins in and out, Mcguire and Sinfields fast hands, Mcguire's world class pass and Ryan Halls finish, Tommy Lueulai's defence and impact

But a succession of simple and poor decisions from the officials overshadowed that and took that way from us. For want of a better description, they ruined the game, and they didnt need to.
The forward pass to Lima for his try is frankly embarrassing, it is unacceptable for a professional referee to miss, there was no mitigation, it was clear and obvious.

The out of play from Burrow is just stupid, we have a VR who can check these things in seconds, why put yourself in the position to have to make that decision? Thats not a failling in skill its a failure in decision making.

Those were simple and avoidable mistakes that simply shouldnt have happened, and certainly not on a stage that big.

As i said to start with, Wigan were worthy winners, but I would have loved to see those two teams slugging out for those final ten minutes, seeing if either had that bit of skill to snatch a victory but that was taken away from us.

As a Leeds fan, i feel robbed of those ten minutes and the chance to be part of a classic much more than I feel robbed of victory.

The game got an overnight rating of 1.6m a 14.5% share of the viewing.

can't remember what it got last year, but that seems a bit low?

still comfortably RL's biggest audience of the year though.

The forward pass to Lima is as borderline an example as I've ever seen. I could understand it if the ball was blatantly thrown a meter forward but they were so close to each other and moving forward that it is effectively impossible to say with any certainty if the ball was passed forward or whether it was momentum when we know camera angles are so inconclusive. The so-called great pass from McGuire to Hall was arguably as forward as the pass to Lima, but nobody tends to pick on the bad calls the losing side got do they?

The out of play from Burrow was a 50/50 call. If it had gone your way we'd have just as much right to complain. ATEOTD Burrow knocked the ball onto Charnley so who played at it last?

So is it poor refereeing or just sour grapes and selective blindness? We could maybe determine which if you gave your opinion on how "embarrassing" the incorrect PTB was that lead to your 2nd try?

It really, really wasnt. Im not sure it was a metre but it was blatantly thrown forward. It wasnt close to boderline, it wasnt a long looping pass which was affected by momentum, the wind or anything else. It was just a clear forward pass and a poor decision It wasnt, it was a very simple decision.No. It was a clear and forward pass. Its nothing to do with the camara angles, it was clear from the passing motion It wasnt even close. If the pass from Mcguire to Hall had taken the same trajectory as the pass to Lima it would have ended up outside the field because of the length of it.

It wasnt. It was a wrong decision. It was a wrong decision i could accept had he needed to make it. I appreciate how difficult it would be for him to make that decision once, at full speed, with only one viewing. But the mistake was, he didnt need to make that decision he could have forwarded on to the VR

Yes, it is poor refereeing. Im not sour, Wigan were worthy winners.

As for Abletts PTB, it should have been a penalty to Leeds for intereference. I can understand why the referee played the advantage.

Look at the angle of Mossop's (was it Mossop? ) hands when he passes to Lima. Absolutely no question that the pass was forward.

From every camera angle it was as clear a forward pass as any I have ever seen, how the on-field officials, especially the TJ on the far side (Child?) is beyond me and I hope is also beyond Stuart Cummings.

Are you serious?

HAHA!

You do realise, don't you, that forward passes cannot be adjudged using video technology, yet basing your own opinion on video footage you are 100% convinced it was forward and had nothing to do with momentum, despite both players running forward? And the crucial fact is that Lima would have scored anyway, or did the ref t make those players fall off him like giant sacks of turds?

With Burrows, he knocked it on to Charnley and the best response you can come up with is repeating your assertion that it was the wrong decision, rather than explaining why you are convinced Charnley played at it or Burrows didn't. In most cases you'll find that if you knock the ball on to a player before it goes into touch you will concede the scrum.

And Ablett, well, that response has to be a joke doesn't it? I didn't hear the referee call advantage, and I've never seen Rugby Union style "roll the ball backwards and play on" allowed before on the basis of interference, the ref would simply give a penalty. Oh wait, there was no interference you made it up. We were robbed, wah wah! You need to introduce a bit of dignity into your handling of defeat mate and stop blaiming the officials who gave you as much as they gave us.