the current salary cap is $4.25 million with the tv grant $500,000 less

clubs want the grant and the sc the same to lessen losses

players wont put up with a $4.25 million cap when the tv deal goes up even $80 million plus the savings from the ic

assuming $100 million in new revenues which is conservative -

1. $40 million for nrl running costs, which covers juniors and everything else
2. $8.5 million - 2 new clubs
3. $52 million extra money to nrl clubs for higher salary cap - almost $3 million more per club. eliminating the current shortfall means the salary cap goes up around $2.5 million to nearly $7 million

player wages are going up a lot in 12 months, the game wont allow its stars to go elsewhere when there is money to keep them

how do you think the NRL is going to save $60million in running costs?
It currently spends $100million on running costs inc $8million to ARL. I'm intrigued to know how you think they can cut this running cost bill by 60% and still give more money to jnr and amateur RL?

The Crushers despite having a descent junior program had a massive debt and 'Tosser' was bailing them out just prior to the SL War - why I think they would have gone bust.

Manly and Norths as I explained earlier wouldn't have been forced to merge later on and would still be powerhouses of the comp.Norths were one of the most watched teams in the '90s (rating better then the Broncos) and Manly hstill had a bucke load of cash.

Cronulla and the Bulldogs might also have gone bust as well, if you guy's know the story Arko was good friends with the guy that ran the Bulldogs, 'Bullfrog' Moore and he turned rat on the ARL. After that Arko never talked to Bullfrog ever again and only turned up to his funeral(Often wonder why Manly and Canterbury aren't now considered grudge matches).
When Manly got the licence in 2002 Cronulla was the only team against granting them re admittance back into the comp

what I have been told about you seems to be right dally messenger

you don't know much about rl or australia.

you think Campbelltown is not in Sydney?!

im assuming you have never been to australia because campbelltown is a suburb of sydney. its in the south west of the city and its where wests tigers play some of their home games. they have played there since they were formed. there used to be a side called the western suburbs magpies -there still is but not a top flight side anymore- who used to play at a place called lidcombe (thats in sydney too) and they used to play at campbelltown too. its definately in sydney

If it was up to me, I would have Cronulla moved Adelaide for half the games, or maybe full time Adelaide Sharks anyone?

but his right, how do you not consider campbelltown a part of sydney?

Cause it's actually not, either is Parramatta.

They are cities in their own right, but they get jumbled into Sydney's suburbs as a whole.

lol at suburban councils bigging themselves up as cities, same here in perth, I live in the "city" of Stirling, which in reality is just a collection of suburbs of Perth.

200 years ago, Parramatta was a long way away from Sydney itself, the population has grown and we can go long distances in minutes instead of hours or days now.

People automatically just assume these places are Sydney, it doesn't help either that the media and more or less everything else does the same thing.

Google Parramatta and you'll see that it is actually another city.

I understand what you are saying about some suburbs thinking bigger, but that isn't the case with Parramatta and Cambletown.

I think Dally is right about Penrith too, you often here them mentions being at the foot of the blue mountains. (last time I looked, there were no mountains in Sydney)

damn, just reread that, my spelling was pathetic.

no different to Fremantle 100 years ago but now it is accepted it is just another Perth metro suburb. To suggest Parramatta or Campbelltown are not "in" Sydney is a furphy.

They are their own cities whether you like it, accept it, or not.

haha, whatever, still I guess it helps with justifying 10 teams across a number of "Sydney" cities

3 cities outside Sydney.
Hey, maybe they can be you clubs huh?

You know, the kicking out and merging you said will happen.