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Just what we need a elite league producing less and less players for england

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We have been talking for over 10 years that we have too many games.

Should be a 12 team Superleague, with no magic weekend just home and away - 22 games.

Promotion/Relegation every 2 years giving the promoted team 1 year to adjust to the demands of Superleague.

Instead of the magic weekend, we have a 3 game origin series, Easts versus Wests.(UK players only) Preperation for international.

Cap on internationl (UK) players to 27 games instead of potentially present of 35 games.

Grand Play offs top 4 only, Minor shield play off 5th to 8th.

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Quote: Judder Man "We have been talking for over 10 years that we have too many games.

Should be a 12 team Superleague, with no magic weekend just home and away - 22 games.

Promotion/Relegation every 2 years giving the promoted team 1 year to adjust to the demands of Superleague.

Instead of the magic weekend, we have a 3 game origin series, Easts versus Wests.(UK players only) Preperation for international.

Grand Play offs top 4 only, Minor shield play off 5th to 8th.'"



That's far too sensible.

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Instead of the magic weekend, we have a 3 game origin series, Easts versus Wests.(UK players only)
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Funnily enough, that is along the lines of what I was thinking except rather than making it exclusive to UK players have a 3-player cap from each side SL side, which would allow for equality amongst clubs and so a few clubs aren't directly affected by injuries AND missing players.

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And England v Other Nationalities would be of more value than East v West for me.

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Quote: Fully "Funnily enough, that is along the lines of what I was thinking except rather than making it exclusive to UK players have a 3-player cap from each side SL side, which would allow for equality amongst clubs and so a few clubs aren't directly affected by injuries AND missing players.'"


Sounds good enough for me, do you think it might be too complicated for the RFL and they tell us to stop talking sense.

You could also have a "pre warm up" game between the championship East/West sides a couple of hours before the main event, this would generate a bigger attendance with non superleague clubs feeling part of the origin event.

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Quote: Judder Man "Sounds good enough for me, do you think it might be too complicated for the RFL and they tell us to stop talking sense.

You could also have a "pre warm up" game between the championship East/West sides a couple of hours before the main event, this would generate a bigger attendance with non superleague clubs feeling part of the origin event.'"


That sounds good too. The only question is slotting them in where to the fixture list.

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Quote: Fully "That sounds good too. The only question is slotting them in where to the fixture list.'"

How about when England are playing in a major football championship?

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Mr Smith wants greater intensity in Superleague, a greater concentration of the best players - less teams and less fixtures would hopefully lead to better rugby and a better product would hopefully lead to higher crowds per game, this fell last year with an increase in teams and reduction in quality

An Origin style series would also help increase the top players exposure to the highest of intensities

As the most recent england coach he is well placed to comment on this issue, as is the present England captain

Fantasies about 16 teams plus? Where are the players coming from?

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: who needs flankers? "I notice that no one put forward these ideas last year when Bradford and Hull were near the bottom
It is not just about where you are in the league it is about the whole club. Warrington play in a quality stadium and will make a profit this year. They also get great crowds and have superb away support.

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[quote="Bonzo":23qz4bj5]Corrected. Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. [i:23qz4bj5]Who needs flankers[/i:23qz4bj5]' grammar was actually correct. HTH. :BEAT:[/quote:23qz4bj5]:46042.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "It is not just about where you are in the league it is about the whole club. Warrington play in a quality stadium and will make a profit this year. They also get great crowds and have superb away support.'"



Right.... so Catalan should be in despite only winning 3 games all season and Hull KR should be in because they are millions in debt and have the worst facilities for away fans in the whole league. d040.gif

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There's that many different ideas on here my head is in bits. d040.gif

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Quote: MattyB "That's far too sensible.'"


That is far too sensible!!

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: who needs flankers? "Right.... so Catalan should be in despite only winning 3 games all season and Hull KR should be in because they are millions in debt and have the worst facilities for away fans in the whole league.
Like I said its not about how many games a team has won. Catalans have had more success though in the last 4 years than many clubs have had for 20 years just for the record.

Hull KR have solid plans to improve craven park and have great crowds and awesome away support.

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Strangely I agree with Mr Smith , ' Super league ' should be for ' Super ' clubs

We dont have 14 ' Super ' clubs

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