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| Quote: Steph Curry "What about lying to SL about getting a new stadium built, in order to get a licence? What are your thoughts on that?'" who lied have a link to that slanderous remark |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "That would be the right / fair response.
However, this is Rugby League and with certain parties desperate to fit Bradford in to SL, by whatever means, suggests that "fairness and good sense" wont be the deciding factors.
IF a particular club is favoured for whatever reason, the criteria will be "adjusted" to accommodate them ie "success during the SL era" or, "playing in an iconic stadium".
Having said that, who ever gets selected, it will cause problems and complaints from those who feel they have been overlooked.
It is difficult to see too far beyond London and Fev but, Toulouse would be a great addition and would allow the first proper French derby game in the professional era.'"
Wren you finished bottom with 6 points and weren't relegated. This high minded indignation is a touch misplaced. |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Well said sir.
It should be the same for any and every club that is striving to get there.
With P/R in place, a SL spot has to be gained on the field of play.
Of course, with the Championship season having been effectively cancelled, things are in limbo, which means that there can only be 2 options.
Either, reinstate the relegated club or, promote the next highest ranked club from the previous season.
Heads it's Fev / tails it's London.
If neither of these options is workable, then go for aggregate points form the last few seasons but, with London having been in SL for one season, where do you go with that.'"
That seems fair to me.
BUT it will be Bradford. |
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| Quote: snowie "who lied have a link to that slanderous remark'"
He/she/it has no such links and is merely trolling.
It was Castleford who were promising a "[imove to a new facility[/i" in 2013.
The Wakefield application for a licence was looked at and it was said [i"The stadium position is uncertain"[/i, Wakefield didn't lie at all, and they only scraped in but they didn't collapse like a wolfpack of cards. The latter aren't telling the truth about no money that's for sure, nor are their apologists on here, see my link on Argyle in talks to buy into Melbourne Storm.
I hereby annoint you"Trollfinder General" happy to help anytime  |
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| Quote: Donnyman "He/she/it has no such links and is merely trolling.
It was Castleford who were promising a "[imove to a new facility[/i" in 2013.
The Wakefield application for a licence was looked at and it was said [i"The stadium position is uncertain"[/i, Wakefield didn't lie at all, and they only scraped in but they didn't collapse like a wolfpack of cards. The latter aren't telling the truth about no money that's for sure, nor are their apologists on here, see my link on Argyle in talks to buy into Melbourne Storm.
I hereby annoint you"Trollfinder General" happy to help anytime ![]()
You really are a prize one.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Wren you finished bottom with 6 points and weren't relegated. This high minded indignation is a touch misplaced.'"
Well Wakey played the system, so it was right to scrub the so called "Super 8's" as the system was badly flawed
It's a nonsense not to choose a team based on whether they have the set up and finances to compete. Imagine after this TWP collapse early in the season if Featherstone did the same. It's OK Wrenners trying to be "fair" but this is an important decision being made for the best interests of Superleague and the game.
Even if we did go for "fair" it's impossible to choose anyway between London and Fev.
Another irony is how so many people seems to totally discount Newcastle yet they may see themselves as "expansionists" 
They slavered over Toronto Wolfpack and their phoney team, whilst when it comes to expanding properly to the North East, that's totally dismissed with no proper reasons given. |
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| Quote: Donnyman "Well Wakey played the system, so it was right to scrub the so called "Super 8's" as the system was badly flawed
It's a nonsense not to choose a team based on whether they have the set up and finances to compete. Imagine after this TWP collapse early in the season if Featherstone did the same. It's OK Wrenners trying to be "fair" but this is an important decision being made for the best interests of Superleague and the game.
Even if we did go for "fair" it's impossible to choose anyway between London and Fev.
Another irony is how so many people seems to totally discount Newcastle yet they may see themselves as "expansionists" ![]()
Gateshead...
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| Quote: IR80 "You really are a prize one.'"
What is upsetting you, the tag he has labelled your mate with, or the fact he is right and you cannot provide a reasoned response to his post. |
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| Quote: Donnyman "Well Wakey played the system, so it was right to scrub the so called "Super 8's" as the system was badly flawed
It's a nonsense not to choose a team based on whether they have the set up and finances to compete. Imagine after this TWP collapse early in the season if Featherstone did the same. It's OK Wrenners trying to be "fair" but this is an important decision being made for the best interests of Superleague and the game.
Even if we did go for "fair" it's impossible to choose anyway between London and Fev.
Another irony is how so many people seems to totally discount Newcastle yet they may see themselves as "expansionists" ![]()
The super 8s was flawed from the beginning playing each other only once gave some home advantage but it did prove to have an exciting end, having finished at the bottom only gave us time to prepare for the coming 8s where sides in the championship was still battling to get in the top 4, when it came to final game it put us who was last with the second best team in the championship due to the rules,
the difference is massive teams coming up should be given a years grace to get up to speed if that meant the second from bottom going down then so be it, they did it with catalan, the only flaw is the team going down ends up having to rebuild again.
I was all for promotion and relegation but the way things are going is proving to me a closed league is better way to go
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| Quote: little wayne69 "What is upsetting you, the tag he has labelled your mate with, or the fact he is right and you cannot provide a reasoned response to his post.'"
which 'mate'...
there is no point in relying to Donnyman with anything meaningful, you can see crom the myriad of threads he starts about the same thing that he has a closed mind. |
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| Quote: snowie "I was all for promotion and relegation but the way things are going is proving to me a closed league is better way to go'"
Thank you for your reply.
I'm sure you didn't mean "closed league" probably "Controlled league" would be a better phrase? The selection of a twelfth club by "criteria" may well repeat in a years time when all 10 or 12 clubs are "selected" for the new SKY deal. It will be fascinating... |
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| Quote: Donnyman "Well Wakey played the system, so it was right to scrub the so called "Super 8's" as the system was badly flawed
It's a nonsense not to choose a team based on whether they have the set up and finances to compete. Imagine after this TWP collapse early in the season if Featherstone did the same. It's OK Wrenners trying to be "fair" but this is an important decision being made for the best interests of Superleague and the game.
Even if we did go for "fair" it's impossible to choose anyway between London and Fev.
Another irony is how so many people seems to totally discount Newcastle yet they may see themselves as "expansionists" ![]()
I dont discount Newcastle at all but, they are nowhere near ready for SL.
What is their highest league placing so far ?
It's quite possible that their time will come, just as (hopefully) York will progress in their new stadium.
As for the facilities / financial stability criteria, haven't Toronto just blown a huge hole in this type of assessment.
As I mentioned in a previous post, once you take away on field success, setting criteria generally becomes a little bit grubby and the criteria for advancement is usually set, based on any favoured club(s) attributes.
Promotion and relegation and set minimum criteria if neccessary is the right way to move forward.
Also, if we return to franchising/ licensing, how do you allow new clubs in or, are we pulling up the drawbridge (again).
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| Quote: Donnyman "
I'm sure you didn't mean "closed league" probably "Controlled league" would be a better phrase? The selection of a twelfth club by "criteria" may well repeat in a years time when all 10 or 12 clubs are "selected" for the new SKY deal. It will be fascinating...'"
The 'controlled league' worked well the last time.Permitted clubs into it who went into financial difficulties,ie,Bradford,shortly after handing Whitehead a 5 yrs contract - not even Toronto have matched that.Clubs with poor quality stadia AND low attendances.
Wigan may not have a stadium in a matter of weeks.
Clubs dependent on monies from the broadcast deal...and a failure to improve the standards of the national side.
Super League really is Super. |
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Quote: Ornery Optimist "The 'controlled league' worked well the last time.Permitted clubs into it who went into financial difficulties,ie,Bradford,shortly after handing Whitehead a 5 yrs contract - not even Toronto have matched that.Clubs with poor quality stadia AND low attendances.
Wigan may not have a stadium in a matter of weeks.
Clubs dependent on monies from the broadcast deal...and a failure to improve the standards of the national side.
Super League really is Super.'"
Think you find Toronto was going about signing players while they was going bust
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/to ... m-watkins/
Anyway what's this about Wigan and not having a stadium within weeks |
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Quote: Ornery Optimist "The 'controlled league' worked well the last time.Permitted clubs into it who went into financial difficulties,ie,Bradford,shortly after handing Whitehead a 5 yrs contract - not even Toronto have matched that.Clubs with poor quality stadia AND low attendances.
Wigan may not have a stadium in a matter of weeks.
Clubs dependent on monies from the broadcast deal...and a failure to improve the standards of the national side.
Super League really is Super.'"
Think you find Toronto was going about signing players while they was going bust
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/to ... m-watkins/
Anyway what's this about Wigan and not having a stadium within weeks | |
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| Quote: snowie "Anyway what's this about Wigan and not having a stadium within weeks'"
Absolute worst case scenario of new owners for the stadium wanting to increase rent & kicking the team out, similar to Coventry City at the Ricoh. |
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