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I would love to know the real reason Garbutt was released by Leeds. He's been brilliant this season and is just what Leeds need.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "I would love to know the real reason Garbutt was released by Leeds. He's been brilliant this season and is just what Leeds need.'"


Pure and simply down to making cap space to sign Merrin. We also offered Cuthbertson and Parcell out at the same time so that dismisses the ‘injured last year/attitude’ theories.

3 of our best players in recent seasons, one the best metre making prop in the league, one who lead the offload charts with over 100 and almost double the nearest rival in both 2015 and 2017 and a hooker who made the Dream Team in 2017. You decide to sell one and try to offload the other two (hardly going to get them fighting for the cause this season is it)....just to get one player in.

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We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.

Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.

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Quote: Gallanteer "We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.

Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.'"


Fair assessment but the way the league is right now, bar two teams, we are two wins on the bounce away from mid table. Also played all the big teams away. I have no fears about relegation but the form is alarming and the defence especially goal line needs serious attention but that can be fixed.

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Quote: My Mate Ronnie "Jack Walker had a poor game , but the lad is young and needs time , The Leeds fans need to be patient with him and not shatter the lads confidence.'"


If only they had a reserves team to let him build his confidence back up in...

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Fair assessment but the way the league is right now, bar two teams, we are two wins on the bounce away from mid table. Also played all the big teams away. I have no fears about relegation but the form is alarming and the defence especially goal line needs serious attention but that can be fixed.'"
due to the poor start youve had leeds will be mid to lower end of the table defo wont go down at the moment youll be in the pack with about 8 teams, will still be hard to beat at headingley kr played pretty well first half, hurrells fitness is vital though

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: rover 2000 "due to the poor start youve had leeds will be mid to lower end of the table defo wont go down at the moment youll be in the pack with about 8 teams, will still be hard to beat at headingley kr played pretty well first half, hurrells fitness is vital though'"


That is one thing in Leeds favour for the remainder of the season, we have played a large chunk away from home and some of them the toughest like Saints and Warrington. If you look at Leeds’ remaining fixture list it’s pretty favourable compared to most because of the start we had with the cluster of away games, 6 of our last 8 games are at home. Funnily enough the two away games in that run are London and Hudds who could be our rivals in the mix at the bottom.

So far Leeds have played 3 at home 7 away. So whilst they do need to play much better the fixture list we’ve had so far has been quite unbalanced and will work a bit back in our favour as the season goes on.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: ThePrinter "That is one thing in Leeds favour for the remainder of the season, we have played a large chunk away from home and some of them the toughest like Saints and Warrington. If you look at Leeds’ remaining fixture list it’s pretty favourable compared to most because of the start we had with the cluster of away games, 6 of our last 8 games are at home. Funnily enough the two away games in that run are London and Hudds who could be our rivals in the mix at the bottom.

So far Leeds have played 3 at home 7 away. So whilst they do need to play much better the fixture list we’ve had so far has been quite unbalanced and will work a bit back in our favour as the season goes on.'"


Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
You've 3 must win games between now and May......if you don't win at least one of them, then I see you being right in the mix and going on the performance v a pretty average HKR, I really don't see that happening.

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Quote: Gallanteer "We played well but Leeds were appaling. Leeds first try came from a blantent forward pass, the second from a clear knock on. And as everone knows, Leeds didn't win last week, Cas threw it away in gold point.

Leeds' 2 wins from 10 games is relegation form.'"


You watched the game right? The one where practically every KR try came off the back of a poor refereeing decision?

Last week Leeds were never behind in the whole match, so not entirely sure how it's possible for Cas to have thrown it away.

We're awful at the moment, that's true, but don't go making stuff up, there's no need. Just focus on the missed tackles and lack of attacking structure and it won't make you seem so petty.

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Quote: Call Me God "Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
You've 3 must win games between now and May......if you don't win at least one of them, then I see you being right in the mix and going on the performance v a pretty average HKR, I really don't see that happening.'"


That's just not true though is it?

We were better than Cas for the vast majority of the match and were worthy winners. We were very unlucky against Saints who we played well against, and like against Wigan and London some very questionable decisions made the difference results wise.

We're not putting together anything like 80minutes, and at times we're embarrassingly bad, but in patches we were good against Saints, Wigan and Cas and we looked great against Salford.

You don't need to tell Leeds fans that we're in a bad position and not playing very well, but at least get a vague relationship with the reality of the season so far.

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Quote: Call Me God "Leeds 3 home games so far have included a narrowest of wins and 2 losses....and the win was more about Castleford bottling it than anything..... The only game where it could be debated that you played well was Away to Salford......the only way I'd be confident if I were a Leeds fan at present is because you've got 2 more cracks at London.
You've 3 must win games between now and May......if you don't win at least one of them, then I see you being right in the mix and going on the performance v a pretty average HKR, I really don't see that happening.'"


Don’t get me wrong, like I said Leeds need to be much better but when factoring in end of season predictions you can’t discount Leeds’ fixtures and whilst we are 1 from 3 at home, any team stands a better chance of picking up points at home rather than away.

As it stands Leeds have left 11 home games, 7 away and 1 Magic Weekend vs London.so you do have to recognise that even if YOU don’t want to as a London fan. It’s a significant difference to teams that have played the same amount of home to away games:

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Big Jim Slade "That's just not true though is it?

We were better than Cas for the vast majority of the match and were worthy winners. We were very unlucky against Saints who we played well against, and like against Wigan and London some very questionable decisions made the difference results wise. '"

Sorry buddy.......but the bit in Bold shows that you're the one detached from reality.......IT'S A CONSPIRACY....... a026.gif icon_lol.gif a026.gif icon_rolleyes.gif a026.gif
You have the 3rd worst +/- in the league....is that coz the refs wouldn't give you the decisions a big club like yours deserve......

.....you're a club in trouble, but don't worry. I'll be here in October to eat humble pie when you're not in the bottom 4........will you be here is you are?

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "You watched the game right? The one where practically every KR try came off the back of a poor refereeing decision?

Last week Leeds were never behind in the whole match, so not entirely sure how it's possible for Cas to have thrown it away.

We're awful at the moment, that's true, but don't go making stuff up, there's no need. Just focus on the missed tackles and lack of attacking structure and it won't make you seem so petty.'"

Give over all our tries came from questionable ref decisions unlike yours obviously like the knock on forward pass etc the fact is your goal line defence was awful that lost you the match and the Cas game yeah you might have been in control but in fact if it hadn’t been for Mcshanes brain fart you’d have lost that also personally you’ll be nowhere near relegation as the league is pretty tight and you have an advantage with the home games you have

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We will be near relegation as we are certs for the bottom 2 , the game at London will be vital (and we are not great on plastic) . The hope then is London do not pick up too many more points . If you do not believe me then tell me who else are we going to beat London at Magic apart

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Quote: ploinerrhino "We will be near relegation as we are certs for the bottom 2 , the game at London will be vital (and we are not great on plastic) . The hope then is London do not pick up too many more points . If you do not believe me then tell me who else are we going to beat London at Magic apart'"


We are 10 games into a 29 game season a lot can change, look at Catalan and Huddersfield last year.

We have got quite a kind fixture list in the coming months, nothing is decided in April.

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