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In my opinion they should have done it in a complete different way instead of tacking Toronto onto the championship/super league.

It should have been a combined effort from the RFL/NRL/South Sea Islands to create a 6 team comp in Canada with an even distribution of overseas players 10 per team the rest being the best of what Canadian players available.

That would be a 10 match comp with the top 3 teams coming over for 3 weeks to compete in a mini comp with the top 3 of the championship. That way you would have around 7 or 8 local players playing every week on a steeper learning curve.

At the moment Toronto are getting quite a lot of players near there sell by date which in turn means a large turnover of players, stability is required so the local fans can become associate identity with there team.

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Quote: Judder Man "In my opinion they should have done it in a complete different way instead of tacking Toronto onto the championship/super league.

It should have been a combined effort from the RFL/NRL/South Sea Islands to create a 6 team comp in Canada with an even distribution of overseas players 10 per team the rest being the best of what Canadian players available.

That would be a 10 match comp with the top 3 teams coming over for 3 weeks to compete in a mini comp with the top 3 of the championship. That way you would have around 7 or 8 local players playing every week on a steeper learning curve.'"


Feel free to come on over here and have a go.

Quote: Judder Man "At the moment Toronto are getting quite a lot of players near there sell by date which in turn means a large turnover of players, stability is required so the local fans can become associate identity with there team.'"


Wolfpack went from League 1 to Championship in one season and have a reasonable chance to reach Super League after two. That's a huge step up for skill level and talent. We were not surprised by player turnover going into the 2018 season (although we were disappointed to lose some fan favourites) and fans fully expect more changes if we reach SL in 2019 - it's necessary to be competitive.

Craig Hall will be here on Saturday, he'll get a warm welcome.

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Quote: pandamonium "Feel free to come on over here and have a go.

Wolfpack went from League 1 to Championship in one season and have a reasonable chance to reach Super League after two. That's a huge step up for skill level and talent. We were not surprised by player turnover going into the 2018 season (although we were disappointed to lose some fan favourites) and fans fully expect more changes if we reach SL in 2019 - it's necessary to be competitive.

Craig Hall will be here on Saturday, he'll get a warm welcome.'"


He's not in the 19 man squad though.

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Quote: pandamonium "Craig Hall will be here on Saturday, he'll get a warm welcome.'"

No he won't, not in the 19 to travel !

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Quote: pandamonium "Feel free to come on over here and have a go.

Wolfpack went from League 1 to Championship in one season and have a reasonable chance to reach Super League after two. That's a huge step up for skill level and talent. We were not surprised by player turnover going into the 2018 season (although we were disappointed to lose some fan favourites) and fans fully expect more changes if we reach SL in 2019 - it's necessary to be competitive.

Craig Hall will be here on Saturday, he'll get a warm welcome.'"



My perspective is Toronto get into super league and I travel 3400 miles for our away game, when I get there I find my team are playing against a lot of ex Leigh and ex Salford players with a couple of Aussies thrown in and only get to see 1 or 2 Canadians playing the game.
How long would that situation transform into home grown talent with one team in isolation..........20+ years maybe.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "No he won't, not in the 19 to travel !'"


That is very disappointing. He was well liked here, and not just for his ability to kick the ball onto the trams on King Street.

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Quote: Judder Man "My perspective is Toronto get into super league and I travel 3400 miles for our away game, when I get there I find my team are playing against a lot of ex Leigh and ex Salford players with a couple of Aussies thrown in and only get to see 1 or 2 Canadians playing the game.
How long would that situation transform into home grown talent with one team in isolation..........20+ years maybe.'"


It's a good question and depends what route Wolfpack take and how the sport in general evolves across the country.

Locally, it took Toronto FC six years. Club was founded in 2005 and set up the academy in 2008 under the leadership of that fine bloke Danny Dichio. TFC signed its first academy graduate in 2011 and now there are seven homegrown in the squad. It's a good model.

Hey, we like those ex-Leigh players. We call them "Wolfpack" now.

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Quote: pandamonium "Correct'"


You don’t have the Salary Cap to match the wages. The whole point of expansion is to develop. If you don’t do that,you simply don’t expand.

That’s the failings within the current game which has been exploited and abused. The game survives on youth, without it you have no game. All the money in the world may buy you a squad but it won’t develop the sport.

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Quote: atomic "You don’t have the Salary Cap to match the wages. The whole point of expansion is to develop. If you don’t do that,you simply don’t expand.

That’s the failings within the current game which has been exploited and abused. The game survives on youth, without it you have no game. All the money in the world may buy you a squad but it won’t develop the sport.'"


Whilst I agree with the centimente behind your post.

Toronto are a slightly special case. In that they were never going to do anything with regards youth straight away. Given that it's a totally new enterprise.
Now if in 5 years it's still the same situation and have only 1 or 2 canadian players in there squad. Then we can complain about it.

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Blimey ! Another Cumbrian club struggling to 'make ends meet'.
"Barrowvians" never heard their fans callled that before, I like it ! icon_biggrin.gif

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That statement answers a few of the critics questions regarding Barrow not having a full team to put out , the RFL will ignore the position they are in at the expense of others. icon_neutral.gif

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Quote: "The club needed money quickly and before the end of the financial year on November 30th. Firstly, to start paying back the immediate debt and secondly to prevent a massive breach of the salary cap, that would have resulted in the club losing its promotion.'"


This bit is confusing, how does them needing a cash boost equate to avoiding breaking the salary cap?
Also not surprised to read further down that the club offered two year deals to many players - some with increased wages if promotion was obtained.
This was always going to happen as soon as this league structure was voted in, as a Bradford fan I know this only too well.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "https

Thats Whitehaven and Barrow that could go out of existence despite being a hot bed of players at grass roots level, while the RFL have there sights fully focussed across the Atlantic.

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