Agree 100%

Whilst he was coach at Leigh their discipline was also horrible and almost a mirror image of his Toronto side

Some coincidence there

But Leigh were the same under his management. Bradford's first game in the Championship, away at Leigh, saw an abundance of sin binnings on both sides, because Bradford allowed themselves to be sucked in playing the game that way and ended up losing. However, when the two sides met later in the season, Leigh's attempts at trying to niggle were ignored by Bradford and Rowley's team had no response to a team who refused to go down the ill-discipline route.

I agree Toronto were excellent in the 1st half, they played some fantastic rugby. If they’d have kept 13 players on the field they may have even gone on to win the game.

This will be a big lesson for Toronto, their discipline must improve and if will come the middle 8’s, when Toronto will gain promotion playing the type of rugby they played in the 1st 40 minuets.

You're a Leeds fan so I fully understand your support of Thaler.

He's a terrible ref and should have been stood down some time ago.

He's on about the ex-Leythers in the team.(e.g Josh McCrone, Darcy Lussick)!!

I said the same at the time, the difference being Warrington didn't get sucked in and Hull did.
Saying that, the referee was actually doing something about the Toronto foul play. He ignored it or did nothing about it at Fev, so Hull will have felt they had to go into business for themselves. Warrington were adequately protected by the ref.

Just seen the sending off incident. Not wanting to advocate players belting each other all the time, but I do think the sending off was harsh. Two blokes squared up, one got a shot off . It's not like a stiff arm or a cheap shot from the blind side. The game has a reputation for being tough and I think it's in danger of becoming a bit too soft for its own good. If two blokes squaring up warrants a red card, the. There judiciary are going to be very busy going forward.

he punched him....duh

you can't do punching

punching is banned

its the wrong sport

dunno what you're all bitching about, toronto were gash, they stunk the place out on national TV with arrogant indiscipline not seen since Leigh came up.
they ruined the event, made RL look like a 2 bit amateur pub game played by a bunch of drunks, they're a ******* disgrace.

Out ?...you betcha they're out and thank **** for that

You Sir win the prize for the most dumbest post of the year.

They have no connection with Leigh anymore you muppet, thats why they left.

You really are a next level of stupid

It wont, Rowley is the coach.

Take it from someone who has seen this previously.

Learn the rules.

And why were the Warrington players running in? Because Toronto kept starting scuffles. He warned both sides and only one side calmed down and spoke to the ref with respect. The professional side. Toronto were an embarrassment today so pop your dummy back in and stop defending such shoddy sportsmanship.

I think the incidents leading up to the red card played a massive part. Toronto were fired up and starting at every opportunity. A red seemed harsh but the law is it is a red. You'd have seen a yellow there if the game was clean from Toronto up to that point.

Toronto didn't cover themselves in glory today, but neither did Ben Thaler. There was a lot of talk about referees 'losing control' after the Featherstone and Hull game and I think today again you saw a referee out of his depth. The first half hour was atrocious from a discipline perspective. Toronto came with a gameplan to be rough and tough and throw it around and see what happened. Warrington were just as aggressive and if anything worse from a disciplinary perspective up to the incident under the sticks. How many hair pulls were there on Kaye and Simms before that? Three or four at least and there were countless flops and swinging arms on tackled players, ridiculous sledging and chest-beating and Thaler did very little about it.

Then the incident under the post happens. There were a few punches thrown in that as well, just too many bodies around for them to connect. Thaler clearly got really flustered by that and for me the game turned, not on the red card, but on what Thaler did then. He broke it up and tells Hill to take his players back to the half way line and he'll talk to him then. Hill makes a flippant comment, brushes past him and starts it again, sledging and pushing and shoving. If anyone is talking about pub league rugby and pub league behaviour, that was it. What does Thaler do? Absolutely nothing, not a thing, just tells him really nervously not to do it again, which again is met with a flippant comment and backchat.

Fast forward to the yellow, just ridiculously harsh. No malice in that at all, Thaler all riled up against Toronto for some reason. The red comes up and Thaler is itching to send him off, cannot wait. That whole incident was ridiculous. The Warrington player has no right to kick it off after the play the ball, initial penalty should be Toronto's. They square up, Warrington player takes a huge risk and butts head with him. The punch was the weakest, feeblest connection there has ever been and it's now a red? For me that sets a huge precedent now, ANY punch is now an automatic red card, because he was being held by two men and it was no more than a slight push to the face. Red card is given and a string of penalties go Warrington's way. All penalties you could give technically, but absolutely none of them had any context in the game, they weren't gaining an advantage from it, he was just punishing any slight indiscretion because he had a major bag on about Toronto. He was ignoring the same minor indiscretions from Warrington. It was unprofessional and embarrassing from him as much as the Toronto team.

McCrone as Captain is entitled to question the referee. Nothing he said was anywhere near as disrespectful as what Hill said or did. All he said was it's a two way street, you've given us nothing and you're not treating us with respect. All completely true. Thaler was like my Mum when I was 6 there, unwilling to talk like an adult should, just sent me to my room without listening to anything, hiding behind the sanctity of being my Mum. I'm all for ref's being respected, but they've got to keep their side of the bargain.

At the end of the day Warrington were going to have the quality to win that game. Thaler, whether in panic or determination not to have another Fev v Hull 'on his watch' was deliberately refereeing one side differently to the other. Serious questions need to be asked at the end of the season about the refereeing as there are so many inconsistencies and too many times when referees are influencing games.

Delusional.

Thought Thaler dealt with it all well. It isn’t he fault the players lost the plot.