So, you thought tonight's was a try?

Keinhorst's finger was bent at 90 degrees as it hit the floor. Indisputably a try.

Of course. I am amazed how anyone can say it was not a try!

Yep. The only issue on that try was the possibility of obstruction. The grounding was clear.

I don't think a slight brush of the finger should constitute a try. Saying that, Hudds wouldn't have scored at the other end if Hall didn't knock on. All in all, it was an intriguing bottom of the table clash, and it showed.

most Leeds fans near me on the western terrace were very surprised to see that given, but that's life.

I thought it was never a try until you saw the slow mo replay. clearly showed there was downward pressure.
it shows why we need the video ref, albeit when they do their job properly

In th two games I watched this week there has been far two much whist made even worse by the fact that Hicks pretty much all came in the first half, and Silverwood only decided to penalise on team per half.

Silverwood proved in that game why he's a poor ref. Repeatedly penalised Leeds in the first half because he got annoyed with Hardaker, then did the same to Hudds in the 2nd half because he got annoyed at Brough.
He can't stop his emotions getting in the way.

Silverwood is especially frustrating because he can have good games. Just seems he gets out of bed the wrong side some morning and decides to be in the mood to ruin games.

for the second season running, thaler allowed tautai to stay on the pitch after a spear tackle on a fc player, no on report, no cards not even a sin binning!

no doubt he will be hauled up by the rfl and pick up a match or two with no benefit to hull fc whatsoever and you wonder if some refs turn a blind eye to some teams

Don't like to harp on about NRL and SL difference but the gap is so wide you cant ignore it.SL refs so inconsistent, hence this thread.Too many games being decided by the standard of the refs,it needs addressing big time imo.

I think there are big issues in the referees department, mostly stemming from underfunding from grass roots up to SL level.
We don't have enough refs & touch judges and the ones that we have aren't paid enough and not trained/developed well enough.
There are huge issues with how refs are developed from a young age. Firstly they're put in to reffing games at too young an age in the amateur game. We have refs refereeing their own age group. I'm of the belief refs should always be at least 2 years older than the age group they're reffing. Also, as we've heard previously from Roy Haggerty, the issues surrounding pay, expenses and how refs are treated ie lack of backup/support from the RFL and refs societies. Then add in the ridiculous, backward and unnecessary violent & intimidating atmosphere many refs experience in the amateur game from any number of s who are bizarrely allowed to operate and attend amateur games, then it's no wonder we have trouble recruiting and keeping referees.

Ontop of that I think we need some kind of 2nd ref. Maybe not in the NRL sense of 2 full referees, maybe have 1 ref and 1 "roaming touch judge" to help the ref make decisions and provide him and the players with information. The game is too fast and too highly scrutinised now for 1 ref in my opinion.

The biggest most noticeable difference and this has a lot to do with the pocket ref....5 seconds is a slow PTB in the NRL, over here 5 seconds is lightning!

Was paying attention to the clock in the Brisbane game, more often than not Brisbane were getting the ball played in 3 seconds and Parra in 4. Anything longer and they were getting called for holding down.

Add in a tackle called held if even 1 leg is lifted of the ball carrier by defenders, the speed is much, much faster.

One thing I'd love to see culled from SL games: the ref calling held then the defending team dropping the ball carrier to the floor - that should be a penalty every single time because they continued the tackle after the held call.