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[b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41] Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41]. PROGRESS[/size:3lwchg41][/b:3lwchg41]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73709.png



Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "

I agree that he hasn't been a good investment for the Warriors, but that's purely because of him coming home early and his injuries this year, not because he isn't good enough. '"

Let's look at this statement.
Firstly, you agree that from an NZ Warriors perspective, he hasn't worked out "investment" wise. This I can agree with given the amount we were supposed to be paying him, 13 tries is a poor return, not to mention 9th place.
But...you continue that this is PURELY down to him:

a/coming home early.

If he's not a failure, then why is he coming home early? Auckland, as much as I dislike the place, is one the best places on the planet to live according to most of the lifestyle type surveys that get bandied about from time to time and if a young man can't "suck it up" to earn good wedge for 4 years whilst sticking to a contract that he signed, then I am afraid that homesickness just doesn't cut the mustard. Simply put, he didn't like the fact he wasn't the #1 star at the club.....IMO he's maybe in the top 5 stars at the club.

b/ His injuries.

If you're going to ply your trade in the toughest comp on the planet, then knocks are going to happen. Problem is he's on his 3rd different injury this year and if I said 13 tries in his first season was a bad ROI for the club, then his appearances thus far this year are a disaster. Injury prone players from the NRL generally end up in Superleague........need I say any more on that topic other than without him this year we're no better or worse.

Warriors fans are neither bothered or upset that he is leaving us next year. He is a liability in defence and we now have enough "play makers" signed for 2016 to feed our outside backs and make us serious contenders. Sam will return to Wigan and be hailed the returning hero by the Wigan faithful, but the reality is I was underwhelmed when we signed him and am even less concerned that he's off home after delivering very little.

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Quote: Jim Pooley "Let's look at this statement.
Firstly, you agree that from an NZ Warriors perspective, he hasn't worked out "investment" wise. This I can agree with given the amount we were supposed to be paying him, 13 tries is a mickey poor return, not to mention 9th place.
But...you continue that this is PURELY down to him

Jesus! Has Tomkins drilled your misses or something?

Yes he scored 13 tries, which was the 2nd highest for the Warriors behind Vatuvei, so what does that say about the rest of your squad if that's such a poor return? He's also not solely responsible for your team finishing 9th.

I'm going to ignore your bizzarre rant about homesickness, because it's ridiculous. You just sound like an incredibly miserable and bitter old man.

On his injuries, again it's just a rambling, incoherent mess. Show me a top player that hasn't struggled with injuries at some point in their career, he's not an injury prone player, he's actually very durable given his size. It's just unfortunate for him and the Warriors, these things happen. He's back this weekend by the way, I'm sure you'll be glad to know.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Jesus! Has Tomkins drilled your misses or something?

Yes he scored 13 tries, which was the 2nd highest for the Warriors behind Vatuvei, so what does that say about the rest of your squad if that's such a poor return? He's also not solely responsible for your team finishing 9th.

I'm going to ignore your bizzarre rant about homesickness, because it's ridiculous. You just sound like an incredibly miserable and bitter old man.

On his injuries, again it's just a rambling, incoherent mess. Show me a top player that hasn't struggled with injuries at some point in their career, he's not an injury prone player, he's actually very durable given his size. It's just unfortunate for him and the Warriors, these things happen. He's back this weekend by the way, I'm sure you'll be glad to know.'"


Oy massive cult! Listen to last weeks and this weeks TWIL for Tomkins real talk.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



For me Tomkins is a great player who happens to play FB.

Hardaker is a very good and better and more natural FB than Tomkins.

Weirdly even though Hardaker is the better FB, Tomkins is the better player. It's Hardaker natural position really, whereas it's not Tomkins natural position even though he's been massively successful there (part of the reason he hasn't quite had the impact in Internationals there because the setup isn't focused as heavily on him).

Tomkins major attributes when playing FB could be replicated if he played in the halves if done properly with the right halfback partner. Whereas Hardaker key attributes are fully about playing FB. For me I think part of the thinking of the move to FB for Tomkins was originally to keep him being targeted in the defensive line.

If Tomkins had Hardaker's defence, positioning and catching or Hardaker had Tomkins attacking ability you'd have one ridiclously incredible player.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



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[b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41] Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41]. PROGRESS[/size:3lwchg41][/b:3lwchg41]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73709.png



Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "I'm going to ignore your bizzarre rant about homesickness, because it's ridiculous. You just sound like an incredibly miserable and bitter old man.
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WoW. You're settling right in here aren't you! icon_lol.gif

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