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Quote: Andy Gilder "Joe Keyes from London, same as the first game I think'"


He is the back up for the currently injured first choice half, the Frenchman William Barthau, at London Broncos.

So much for London's chances of promotion back up into Super League in 2016.

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Keyes did fine. His oppo for Australia didn't have any greater impact. Two try assists including a lovely crossfield kick in the first half for England's second try which was to Thurston standard.

This is top level rep rugby for this age group but it's also about development. Keyes is not from the RL heartlands and will have benefitted from the experience more than most. Let's hope he learns well and applies the knowledge to London's benefit next year.

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Quote: Sui Generis "Keyes did fine. His oppo for Australia didn't have any greater impact. Two try assists including a lovely crossfield kick in the first half for England's second try which was to Thurston standard.

This is top level rep rugby for this age group but it's also about development. Keyes is not from the RL heartlands and will have benefitted from the experience more than most. Let's hope he learns well and applies the knowledge to London's benefit next year.'"


I hope that you are right, Sui.

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Didn't really rate the Hull lads, Turgut and Abdul, in the first match but they both had good games last night. Abdul was man of the match for me.

I think England learned a lot from the first match and altered the game plan to try to run round the Aussies rather than through them. In both matches we caused them problems on the edges.

The two Islanders playing prop gave us problems but soon ran out of steam. Think the Aussie fullback, Latrell Mitchell, could develop into Inglis mk II but he needs to cut out the stroppy behaviour.

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Quote: dr_feelgood "The two Islanders playing prop gave us problems but soon ran out of steam. Think the Aussie fullback, Latrell Mitchell, could develop into Inglis mk II but he needs to cut out the stroppy behaviour.'"


Think you will always get that with these lads who've grown up playing in successful teams and knowing that they have talent. As soon as they don't get their own way and are losing they start getting all stroppy. Certainly what i've noticed anyway when i've played and watched.

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Most Hull fans expect big things from Turgut in the next few years he could end up been a star for Hull. Abdull had some very good performances fr the first team last year. Then there's also Logan who got a double against Leeds last season and Lancaster whos scored about 9 tries in 5 games last season. They were our representatives for England academy. Was sad to hear Lancaster was dropped for the second game, but was replaced by Logan. Was good to hear he scored.

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If i could nominate 3 players from each team who i think will develop into top NRL/SL players they would be:
Australia - Latrell Mitchell, Keegan Hipgrave & John Olive.

England - Ashton Golding, Toby King & Jansin Turgut.

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The problem Golding is going to have is that he's got a young, talented English full-back in front of him at Leeds.

If he's going to kick on, he may need to move away from Headingley.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The problem Golding is going to have is that he's got a young, talented English full-back in front of him at Leeds.

If he's going to kick on, he may need to move away from Headingley.'"


Not if the current full back decides against signing a new contract there and moves on to either the NRL or another SL club

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Quote: Northern Boys "Not if the current full back decides against signing a new contract there and moves on to either the NRL or another SL club'"


Either way up, all of those lads need to be out of age group rugby now and playing against grown-ups.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The problem Golding is going to have is that he's got a young, talented English full-back in front of him at Leeds.

If he's going to kick on, he may need to move away from Headingley.'"


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Oli Gildart is another who could have a good career in SL, he has electrifying speed which can't be coached.

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Quote: The Eclipse "Oli Gildart is another who could have a good career in SL, he has electrifying speed which can't be coached.'"


Just signed a new 4 year contract at Wigan

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On the back of this tour can anybody explain the reasoning behind both Wigan and Leeds playing the Aussie schoolboys and not rep teams?

Seems a bit unfair if rep teams like Lancs, Yorks or combined Hull ( I know they played a combined Cumbria team) couldnt get a fixture on the back of this if there is no real reason as to why Wigan and Leeds got a fixture.

I know if a combined Hull team had been given a game the crowd and interest would have been high and I am sure this is similar for the other rep alternatives.

If Wigan and Leeds qualified for these fixtures then I could understand but it seems to be rewarding the big clubs unfairly if not. If a player is in negatiations with both Wigan and Warrington for example and Wigan are able to promise a player a game against the worlds best touring teams from the Oz and NZ touring teams then you can see how they may be more persuaded to sign for the team guaranteed these fixtures.

At the end of the day because both Wigan and Leeds are successful a large number of their players will rep England against these teams anyway so arranging additional tours games against their clubs seems a tad flawed to me.

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There's no need for those kind of rep teams as the existing academies would be at least as strong as those rep teams. And the best of the others will be in the England team.

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