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| Quote: JB Down Under "I was at thrum hall in the 80's when your and mine clubs were two of the best in the world, I was also there in the 90's when were playing in front of 500 people. Hardly a blow in! Had lots of fun with fans at barrow, fax, feath etc during our time in div 2&3 but wouldn't want to be back there.
Well it is arguable if it is a good idea to kick out a club who have the evidenced potential to deliver major pluses for your business, especially when there is no one to replace them who could offer more. South Sydney are a great example, terrible run club, kicked out, managed to argue there way back in, now the second biggest club in the NRL.
Of course it's previous owners of the bulls poor management that has got them in this situation but I simply don't understand punishing a club that is on its knees financially by financially hitting them harder. No business in the world would do something that stupid.'"
The Bulls are not being ' kicked out ' ,they are playing within the rules of the sport just like everybody else
They are being punished because they took actions that attempted to gain an advantage against their fellow clubs, nothing unfair about that ,their actions also brought the sport into disrepute
They are not the ' Victim ' in all this, everybody else they competed with or dealt financially are
The sport overall will be better that they take their points deduction and deal with whatever consequences that brings , their refusal to do that in a honorable way further damages the image of the sport
It really is that simple
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "There is so much wrong with than comparison i dont even know where to start.'"
Its never stopped you before, spread enough talking bollox and you can confuse any argument, you're slipping
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| Quote: Starbug "The Bulls are not being ' kicked out ' ,they are playing within the rules of the sport just like everybody else
They are being punished because they took actions that attempted to gain an advantage against their fellow clubs, nothing unfair about that ,their actions also brought the sport into disrepute
They are not the ' Victim ' in all this, everybody else they competed with or dealt financially are
The sport overall will be better that they take their points deduction and deal with whatever consequences that brings , their refusal to do that in a honorable way further damages the image of the sport
It really is that simple'"
Spot on.
Every other club that has cheated in this way resulting in going bust has accepted the rules and the consequent points deduction, resulting in relegation at the end of the ensuing season for many.
I worry that the Bulls' new owner isn't of an RL background and more importantly isn't willing to accept the spirit of the competition.
It's suggested his own money is funding his appeals. But what if it's his cash going via the Bulls club as a loan and he then gets his money back out of the Bulls' parachute payment for 2015? A third Administation in 3 years?
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| That is my worry. Some would say a court hearing started this decline, a drop to the next division is not the end at all. But a 3rd administration through another court case could do the job.
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| Quote: Starbug "Its never stopped you before, spread enough talking bollox and you can confuse any argument, you're slipping'"
If that made sense as a sentence it could almost have been confused for wit.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "That is my worry. Some would say a court hearing started this decline, a drop to the next division is not the end at all. But a 3rd administration through another court case could do the job.'"
How do you know either of those statements are true?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "How do you know either of those statements are true?'"
Straw man argument.
I did not say they were true, more that it was my worry.
But we could micro inspect all words and lines on here.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Straw man argument.
I did not say they were true, more that it was my worry.
But we could micro inspect all words and lines on here.'"
Well a 2 line post would normally get a 4 quote response, he's slipping
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Straw man argument.
I did not say they were true, more that it was my worry.
But we could micro inspect all words and lines on here.'"
Ok, a better way of phrasing that question would be, Why do you think either of those statements are true? There doesnt seem to be any logic behind them, just convenience really.
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| Quote: Starbug "Well a 2 line post would normally get a 4 quote response, he's slipping
Keep trying, you might fall assbackward into wit or sense eventually. A stopped clock and all that.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "icon_lol.gif
Well, it was in response to a pathetic comment
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Well, it was in response to a pathetic comment'"
Who are you? Smokey's bitch?
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| Quote: Fax Machine "Who are you? Smokey's bitch?
No. I think going by his responses to you we all know who's Smokey's bitch
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| No one wins from this.
Bradford are fast alienating everyone else within the game, they need friends now more than ever but this action will only be negative for the game and ultimatly for bradford.
They will go down regardless of whether they get the points back. People squark about the RFL on here but you don't want to get into a street fight with them when you are as busted up as bradford, all they are doing now is making themselves a powerful enemy when they themselves are in a very weak position.
Bradford are finished. Stick in a fork in them, they're done.
My feelings about the situation before were impassive, but now they've turned.
Just go away and die, Bradford.
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