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Quote: Durham Giant "Yet if he played for Leeds he would probably have won loads of trophies and you would have been lauding him as the best thing since sliced bread !'"



You deal in a lot of ifs and buts which is pointless.

The fact is Brough is 30, he's played in 1 CC final where Sinfield won MOM and has never played in a 'big' game since, what makes you think he would suddenly be able to turn it on in a big game when he never has before?

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Quote: christopher "You deal in a lot of ifs and buts which is pointless.

The fact is Brough is 30, he's played in 1 CC final where Sinfield won MOM and has never played in a 'big' game since, what makes you think he would suddenly be able to turn it on in a big game when he never has before?'"


You show me one occasion when Sinfield has played in teams as poor as Hull, Wakefield and Huddersfield and made them into all conquering teams.

Your accusation of ifs and buts goes both ways.

But again your point is irrelevant as i keep saying. Not choosing Brough was just one of many errors made by McNamara but you keep ignoring all the others. Why do Leeds fans just want to turn this into Brough vs Sinfield.

What about Chase vs Widdop.

T Burgess vs anyone of 10 other props who could / have should have been picked.
etc etc etc

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Quote: Durham Giant "Yet if he played for Leeds he would probably have won loads of trophies and you would have been lauding him as the best thing since sliced bread !'"


Brough wouldn't have won anything with leeds.

BRB 5 minutes to go in a close grand final 2 points in front, I know i'll do a chip kick to the wing in midfield. It looks pretty and creative.

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Quote: Durham Giant "You show me one occasion when Sinfield has played in teams as poor as Hull, Wakefield and Huddersfield and made them into all conquering teams.

Your accusation of ifs and buts goes both ways.

But again your point is irrelevant as i keep saying. Not choosing Brough was just one of many errors made by McNamara but you keep ignoring all the others. Why do Leeds fans just want to turn this into Brough vs Sinfield.

What about Chase vs Widdop.

T Burgess vs anyone of 10 other props who could / have should have been picked.
etc etc etc'"


Brough hasn't made anyone into an all conquering team. The only major trophy he won was at hull and stephen kearney and richard swain were much bigger players in that team.

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Quote: Durham Giant "You show me one occasion when Sinfield has played in teams as poor as Hull, Wakefield and Huddersfield and made them into all conquering teams.

Your accusation of ifs and buts goes both ways.

But again your point is irrelevant as i keep saying. Not choosing Brough was just one of many errors made by McNamara but you keep ignoring all the others. Why do Leeds fans just want to turn this into Brough vs Sinfield.

What about Chase vs Widdop.

T Burgess vs anyone of 10 other props who could / have should have been picked.
etc etc etc'"


Look I don't have to make anything up for Sinfield his records speak for themselves.

Brough has never taken any team to anything, well yes he's captained a team to a LLS but then bottled it when it actually counted.

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Sinfield - 6 SL winners rings
- 1 lance todd
- 1 golden boot
- 2 harry sunderland awards

Brough - 1 CC winners medal and a man of steel.

Durham giant - Brough would have done better in big games for england!

Paul Anderson should be england coach!

Huddersfield were an all conquering team last year!

Durham...please.

LOL

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Quote: christopher "Look I don't have to make anything up for Sinfield his records speak for themselves.

Brough has never taken any team to anything, well yes he's captained a team to a LLS but then bottled it when it actually counted.'"



Sinfields record at Leeds is impressive his record at International level not so.

I understand you want to suck up to Sinfield as you are a leeds fan BUT then again this is not about Brough and Sinfield and you keep ignoring the wider issues.

I will raise some of them again

Quote: christopher "But again your point is irrelevant as i keep saying. Not choosing Brough was just one of many errors made by McNamara but you keep ignoring all the others. Why do Leeds fans just want to turn this into Brough vs Sinfield.

What about Chase vs Widdop.

T Burgess vs anyone of 10 other props who could / have should have been picked.
etc etc etc'"


No doubt you will come back with another Sinfield is great comment BUT just because he is your fantasy lover it really is getting a bit tedious now.

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Not choosing Brough wasn't an error IMO

He chose Widdop for the most important game, maybe that was his plan all along, the fact is you know nothing about what went on in the England camp and what lead to selections.

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Quote: christopher "Not choosing Brough wasn't an error IMO

He chose Widdop for the most important game, maybe that was his plan all along, the fact is you know nothing about what went on in the England camp and what lead to selections.'"



Then please inform me with your infinite wisdom or inside knowledge about how today was McNamras master plan and that this narrow defeat was as a result of His managerial brilliance.

It is a real pity he lost about 15% of his squad to disciplinary issues and two others who he recognised were so dire he did not wish to pick them and was then left with picking a player as sub he did not even dare put on!

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Quote: Durham Giant "Then please inform me with your infinite wisdom or inside knowledge about how today was McNamras master plan and that this narrow defeat was as a result of His managerial brilliance.

It is a real pity he lost about 15% of his squad to disciplinary issues and two others who he recognised were so dire he did not wish to pick them and was then left with picking a player as sub he did not even dare put on!'"


Where did I say I had infinite wisdom? Where did I say I had inside knowledge? It is you that's claiming things as fact when in reality you know absolutely nothing.

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Quote: christopher "Where did I say I had infinite wisdom? Where did I say I had inside knowledge? It is you that's claiming things as fact when in reality you know absolutely nothing.'"


You ought to go back to school

You wrote
Quote: christopher "He chose Widdop for the most important game, maybe that was his plan all along, the fact is you know nothing about what went on in the England camp and what lead to selections'"
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You know as much as i do. I have asked questions you keep dodging
who chose Ablett as the sub and did not play him ?
I believe it was Steve McNamara. if i am wrong tell me, if you think it was good idea then tell me,



Who kept choosing Chase instead of Widdop ?

I think it was Steve McNamara If i am wrong tell me, if you think it was a good idea tell me.

Who chose Mossop and T Burgess for the squad ?

I think it was Steve McNamara, If i am wrong tell me. If you think it was a good idea tell me

I am claiming that the above decisions were Steve McNamars even if you disagree just help me out give me a suggestion on who else made those decisions.

Without a possible / realistic alternative i think that statistically it was Steve McNamara's decison. That IMHO is enough to make it a fact.

Please enlighten me o knowledgeable Leeds fan. Yoiu have seen so much success, you must know more than me just a humble basement dweller after following Huddersfield.

Help me to understand why the coach did not make those decisions.

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I said maybe, thus implying I (nor you ) knows what the coach was thinking.

You obviously think SM is a poor coach, all I know is I saw an England side that have the best performance for a long time and yet keyboard coaches like you think you know best, let's face it you are actually glad England lost today so you can post your drivel.

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