Roby had the ability to do a good kick. That bit's not the issue, it's those sloppy little bits of play and little lapses in concentration.

I'l be honest I think that was the complete worst kind of game England needed.

Ireland were awful and English players looked much better than they really were as a result.

The half back combination was practically useless, and some players arent performing well.

Put it down to what you want, the coach or whatever, but last week I felt England could improve on their game against Aussies. This week I just hope we can turn up and make a fight of it in the big games.

England should have run riot today, instead it looked sloppy.

On top of that we have a coach throwing his toys out the pram. Little wonder why we get stick here as a small time sport.

Quiz question of the future:

Name the brothers who played rugby for England on 2nd November 2013 but for different teams?

Why is McNamara ALWAYS so miserable/serious when being interviewed ?
Cheer up ya 'Yorkshire Pudding'.
EVERY other coach in this RLWC are more than approachable, Victor Meldrew would be proud of Steve.

The man has no idea on how to deal with people, that's the problem with many ex professional sports persons, they have had no other outside experience aside from the sport itself.
That doesn't aid dealing with situations like this, aside from the fact I think he's a crap coach he clearly hasn't the ability or persona to handle the situation in a manner that doesn't say I'm/we're hiding something and we aren't going to tell you so feck off..
Quite sad really when you consider he's the 'top' coach for our country..

But he hasn't, he's spent of his time, when fit, playing reserve grade over here.

Having said that George had poor ball retention playing reserve grade over here too.

George played reserve grade before getting a chance in the NRL. Tom has a little bit of Super League experience add that to now been surrounded by better players at Souths I think in the next year we will make big steps.

I do agree that he possibly shouldn't be in the England squad this year. but its good experience for him. apart from some handling errors he hasn't really let anyone down yet IMO

would agree with this.Maybe Burrow for McIlorum and start with Roby.


The best thing that can hapeen to England is for one of Widdop, Sifield or Chase to do a hamstring.

WE need the two halves who are going to play to play all the time and stick with it.

Banana does not know what his best half back combination is and i think it is affecting team plays and players performance. Whether you like Chase or not he is not playing his natural game. Without his natural game he is a passenger

If he is the first choice then Widdop should be dropped and rangi should be then given that boost of confidence and tols to go out and play.

If widdop is the first choice drop rangi and let him get on with sinfield.

If sinfield is going to be hooker then play him there and let the twp halves play.


No other serious team in the competition has gone into it thinking which one of these three do i play, " I know i will ;pick all three and just mess them arond"

What a load of shiite

Next year is too late for TOM. The WC is now. The next WC is 4 years ago. This is not about blooding players to give them international experience you should have your best players in the squad NOW.

He has let people down. His team mates and the fans. Dropping the ball helps no one. If we did not drop the ball and give penalties away against Australia they were beatable in the first game. The boost that woul dhave given the fans, the team and the whole competition would have been huge.

The worse of it is that we have a team now where we do not have 4 first pick props. Mossop and Tom are passengers. So we are forced to play someone who is not up to it or have to move second rowers around

Between the prop situation and the halve backs not been resolved England are right royally fooked.

IF we had won the WC this year the game would have taken off. SL etc would have had a sponsor next year, crowds up, piblicity up, sponsorship up. The game could probably have put it's financial problems behind it.

did tom burgess even play yesterday?! next weeks props should be graham, hill, s.burgess and g.burgess.

widdop and ablett offering little of the bench last two games, needs changing.

though chase got involved alot more yesterday and looked good, cudjoe again showed his class shutting the knockers up. Ferres fitted perfect, will keep his place on last two showings.

apart from that a good result! can beat fiji but will be a tougher test than the irish put up.

I'm not sure why you would drop Chase after his performance yesterday. He was one of our best players, along with Roby, who you've dropped to the bench for some reason.

Can’t agree that we are fooked in the front row

If we go into the big games with a front row rotation of Sam Burgess, George Burgess, James Graham and Chris Hill we will be very strong

McNamara has dropped a bit of a clanger by selecting Tom Burgess over Crabtree or even someone like Luke Burges or Alex Walmsley. If George is injured next week then Sam comes back in as a direct replacement.

lets now drop this big burgess sentiment thing that's going on,as tom sadly is nowhere good enough at the minute for a spot in england's 17 man squad

Matchday 17 Forwards
Props - Hill, S.Burgess, G.Burgess, Graham
2nd rows - Ferres, Westwood
Loose - O'Loughlin
Sub back rower - Ablett or Farrell

Sub back row may be an issue and it would've been interesting to see Farrell get a game yesterday but when I saw the strapping on Watkins knee then maybe that's what's swaying the pick to Ablett.