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| I don’t think the Huddersfield fans should be too despondent.
They certainly didn’t have the rub of the green regarding the refereeing decisions, however, they’ve witnessed their best season for god knows how long.
Warrington, who are regarded as a top club, still haven’t won the G.F yet.
The Huddersfield squad is there, or there abouts, the big problem for me is if Mr Davy’s wallet is still up for the fight?
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "When theres still over 30 minutes left, certainly not to try and score on every play.'"
Complete bollox, you attempt to score every play, if you dont, you take the lesser option
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Warrington are gonna blow it
That right mate?
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| Quote: Starbug "So tell me then, what is the ' priority ' of a team losing by 2 scores?'"
Clarke explained his thinking very well. He said that the Giants definitely had the ability to score 10 points in the remaining time. But they were pretty much dead if Wire did get another score. While the Giants knew they needed to score, there's no point in chasing it so hard that you end up costing yourself a try which kills the game.
My first reaction to what Clarke said was probably similar to most, that Clarke was talking out of his hat. But after hearing his further explanation and reflecting on it I do think he was right.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Clarke explained his thinking very well. He said that the Giants definitely had the ability to score 10 points in the remaining time. But they were pretty much dead if Wire did get another score. While the Giants knew they needed to score, there's no point in chasing it so hard that you end up costing yourself a try which kills the game.
My first reaction to what Clarke said was probably similar to most, that Clarke was talking out of his hat. But after hearing his further explanation and reflecting on it I do think he was right.'"
As I said, complete bollox, RL is a simple sport, when you have the ball you attack and attempt to score, when you dont you defend and attempt to prevent the other team from scoring , just because a pundit attempts to sound clever doesnt make him correct
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| Quote: Starbug "As I said, complete bollox, RL is a simple sport, when you have the ball you attack and attempt to score, when you dont you defend and attempt to prevent the other team from scoring , just because a pundit attempts to sound clever doesnt make him correct'"
You don't attempt to score on every single play on every single possession though.
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| Quote: Richie "You don't attempt to score on every single play on every single possession though.'"
That decision is usually made towards the end of a set depending on field position, obviously if you are still in your own half then it is less likely, and if you are leading then it is more likely you will reduce the risk involved in giving the opposition an ' open play ' option
But if you are losing, especially by more than 1 score then every set should start with the intention to score on that play, it really is that simple
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| Quote: Starbug "That decision is usually made towards the end of a set depending on field position, obviously if you are still in your own half then it is less likely, and if you are leading then it is more likely you will reduce the risk involved in giving the opposition an ' open play ' option
But if you are losing, especially by more than 1 score then every set should start with the intention to score on that play, it really is that simple'"
I still wouldn't. Not until its getting to the point getting towards less than two minutes per needed try. I.e. possession starting in our own 10, and we're running some simple plays to set up a kick. Now, if we make a break part way through that set then things might change. But it's typically going to be better to set up a kick and play field position, or a contested kick.
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| Quote: Cronus "Bugger off, don't want those types wandering around here.'"
No need to use FOUL language, you naughty moderator !
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| Warrington have now beaten the champion 'best side in the league' four times this season. Can't argue with the fact we deserve to be in the Final.
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| Quote: mark_m "Warrington have now beaten the champion 'best side in the league' four times this season. Can't argue with the fact we deserve to be in the Final.'"
You'd better hope that Wigan beat Leeds, as you seemed to be running scared from the Rhinos by picking the team that finished top, instead of the third placed team.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You'd better hope that Wigan beat Leeds, as you seemed to be running scared from the Rhinos by picking the team that finished top, instead of the third placed team.
Huddersfield aren't as good as Leeds. That's why Warrington picked them.
When will people realise that league position is irrelevant under this current format.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You'd better hope that Wigan beat Leeds, as you seemed to be running scared from the Rhinos by picking the team that finished top, instead of the third placed team.
Jesus wept.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You'd better hope that Wigan beat Leeds, as you seemed to be running scared from the Rhinos by picking the team that finished top, instead of the third placed team.
Oh dear.
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| Quote: Starbug "That decision is usually made towards the end of a set depending on field position, obviously if you are still in your own half then it is less likely, and if you are leading then it is more likely you will reduce the risk involved in giving the opposition an ' open play ' option
But if you are losing, especially by more than 1 score then every set should start with the intention to score on that play, it really is that simple'"
There must have been hundreds of coaches who have derided their side for trying to score on every set rather than doing what they should have been doing by working hard to earn the field position to put themselves in a position to score.
If you have an U11 mentality then yeah, you'll be able to score with every play, even if you're collecting the ball in your own in-goal. But if you're playing in a Grand Final eliminator against a side who've beaten you three times already and you are 8 points behind you clearly don't play the game with your childish mentality.
The priority from the Giants when Clarke made that comment would have been to do absolutely everything to make sure they didn't concede again. So that's no stupid pens conceded, no stupid offloads, no forced passes that end up spilled or intercepted, no risky kicks to try and create a break which means Warrington would be starting their set on the halfway line.
I think Clarke was right. I think his point was valid at that time that while they definitely wanted points on the board, there's no point pushing too hard for those points and putting yourself at a greater risk of conceding and effectively killing the game.
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