they will probably take the moonwalk honour away from him too just like they stripped him of the Tour de France victories ?

victimisation IMO

Technically sliding over the line is still part of the movement of carrying the ball, whereas grabbing at a ball on the ground isnt , irrelivant in this case, it was a knock on

It is not a knock on when a tackled player loses possession of the ball. This is a separate rule which applies to any loss of possession by a tackled playerLosing possession – intentionally – accidentally 8. A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the ball other than by bringing it into play in the prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.'"

Briers changes the direction of the ball, doesn't take it cleanly. The ball would have continued travelling past him, in stead it stopped dead and hit the ground. That's a knock on. We know it's a knock on, because that's what was given against Rob Burrow in the game against Wire last year, where the ball continued to travel backwards until Burrow picked it up clean.

Leuluai doesn't deliberately play the ball, he completes a tackle, and brushes a ball lost by Hodgson. Delaney is part of that tackle, and so is onside to play the ball, which he does, and scores. It's a legit try, and should have been given.

There's also at least one incident of 'running through the line' by Wire dummy runners, for which we've seen tries chalked off this year, and Waterhouse clears Sinfield out for another of Warrington's tries.

Meanwhile Briers deliberately makes contact with an airborne player (i.e. a dangerous tackle) and isn't binned, while Paul Wood is seen striking, and not (as should be the case) red carded.

An altogether woeful and one-eyed display from Silverwood, surely he's got to be sacked after being so e for so long.

As for some of the other 'I know the rules' special ones on here, McGuire's try at Wigan should have stood, as Cummins confirmed in the report for the weekend. There is no rule against dropkicking in open play, or that dropkicks must only be for goal (that's why missed drop goals are play on/20 metre restart it the ball goes dead).

Leeds throw between 10 and 20 forward passes a game, so dont start moaning about other clubs getting away with the odd infringement, they also employ Ryan Bailey, reason enough to be penalised, not to mention Brent Webb, and Danny Buderus , who was unable to get up off the floor without leaning all over the opposition player as he played the ball

Danny knocked on and kicked at the ball

You lost fair and square, get over it

Delaney had dropped off the tackle. So even if being in the tackle did make him onside (it doesn't) that wouldn't apply.
He was clearly in front of Leuluai when the ball touched Leuluai. He was offside. Whether Leuluai knocked on or didn't knock on the correct decision was always going to be a scrum to Leeds.

Nope. it is only a knock on if he propels it towards the opponents' lien., He didn't.. People have published phtographic proof, so you really need to accept the fact that it was a good and correct call. Continuing to pis$ into the wind is never a good idea.


It looked to me as if he was clearly trying to get the loose ball. If he wasn't. then it is a strange co-inicidence why he started to move his hand exactly in the direction the ball happened to be, wouldn't you say?


He got the gig as he's been the best ref to date. He had an excellent game. The two major decisions, one wa sprobably by a TJ (but correct) and the other was not even by him, it was (correctly ) given by the VR. How do you not know this?

You seriously need to get over it. But ridiculous hyperbole never helped a case in the recorded history of cases.

Hodgson was attempting to regain control, Leuluai made a concious attempt to prevent him doing so, result Knock on

Talking of one eyed, you should change your name to Cyclopes. As has already been pointed out, Leeds appear to be exempt from the forward pass rule. You also forget the multitude of soft penalties Leeds were awarded in the first 15 minutes but did nowt with.

Someone else states some bumf about the photographic evidence. Is that the series of three pictures where Lee briers is behind the ball on the second

It was a knock on, the officials got it wrong

No it's not. You can't just make up what the rule is to make you right.
A knock on is if the ball is dropped towards the opponents try line and hits either the floor or a player.


Leuluai knocks on clearly. He's moving his arms to get to the ball. He didn't do it making the tackle so it's a knock on.
Delaney is in front of Leuluai when he knocks it. He's offside. It really is that simple.


I remember seeing an incident where a Leeds player's path is slightly obstructed by a dummy runner. For it to be a penalty, the ref needs to believe that the player could have made the tackle. Had the player not stopped and whined at the ref, he'd have gotten to the player. Not the first time a Leeds player has been guilty of the whinging trait this year.


Not sure about the Briers incident, but if Wood had been sent off it would have completely ruined the game. It's a final, it's gonna get a bit spicy. I'm not sure what happened in the build up to it to cause Wood to lash out either.


Oh behave. Your team didn't lose did they?


This is one thing I disagree with Cummins about. It opens up a huge can of worms him saying that. McGuire wasn't going for a drop kick. He dropped the ball and miskicked it. That's a knock on to me. Basically Cummins is saying that it's OK to knock on as long as you kick it after, which I think goes against what the game is about. But that says it all about Cummins.