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| He is attempting to help protect his own player as any coach would do by way of merely asking the referees to air on the side of Sam rather than the tackler. I doubt Tomkins would have had any ill feeling towards what Wane has said and will go about his usual stuff.
Of course Tomkins is a target, much like Burrow, Long et al were but thats because they are/were the better players on the team and the ones who could influence it most. Tomkins has big friends in the pack who can help him out if things get a bit messy but what happens on the field stays on the field.
There was no real reason for Wane to come out and do this except maybe grab a few headlines for Wigan as it'd been a bit quiet recently. Take a pinch of salt the lot of you!
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| Quote: Ovavoo "The problem is that the refs appear to think the same. Good players will always be a target but as in the game against Catalans, the officials seemed to deliberately ignore an attack to Sam's head.'"
The officials are there to referee the game and enforce the rules.
What else should be done to protect players ?
Lets face it, Tomkins himself is no "Snow White" and as I said earlier, he could help himself by not "show boating" which is only done to wind up the opposition players and fans.
Dont get me wrong, Tomkins has masses of talent and is worth the entrance fee on his own, but Wane's comments are similar to the kind of thing Ferguson comes out with in the round ball game and this also comes accross as though his team are so special that they should be treated differently.
Nobody can condone deliberate foul play when it is intended to cause harm, but it does happen and its up to the officials and then the disciplinary panel to sort these things out.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "As Bilko states this comment from Wane mainly stems from terrible tackle by Setimata Sa on Sam in the Catalan match. It was a poor tackle that Tomkins was lucky to escape uninjured from. I think most of us would concede that the RFL have gone a little soft this year when enforcing and policing high and dangerous tackles. It's of course as always about finding that happy medium between being too strict and too lax.
I think it's a bit of a nothing story personally. But I'm pleased to read that if the RFL won't protect Sam the Wigan forwards will. Within the rules of course.
No doubt the anti-Wigan brigade will get stretch this non story into a good sized thread. I'm looking forward to reading the bile.
Well your prediction was correct LTS. We're already easily at eight entertaining pages.
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| Quote: fatbaztod100 "Sorry but still dont see the point. I see that you think Dobson needs protecting the same as Sam does. But think that Wane should speak up for a Hull KR player. Correct me if I'm wrong.'"
Dobson doesn't need protecting the rules are already in place to do that Wane however was in such a rush to Bleat on little Sams behalf that he didn't consider that others may get the same kind of treatment.
Like I said you had TOTALLY missed the context.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Dobson doesn't need protecting the rules are already in place to do that Wane however was in such a rush to Bleat on little Sams behalf that he didn't consider that others may get the same kind of treatment.
Like I said you had TOTALLY missed the context.'"
Maybe Wane was brought up on RL in a time when the most skillful players were never touched.................oops
Slightly o/t, When Shaun Edwards played half of a cup final with a broken cheekbone, that WAS doing it tough and his comment post match was that he didn't want the opposition to think that they'd hurt him.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "But he has no way of knowing if that is normal right across the league just as you don't.
As an example I have seen Micheal Dobson battered during some games.
It happens but Wane isn't interested in all that apparently he just wants little Sam protected.
You seem to have a similar opinion.
As Smokey rightly says (God I can't belive I have just said that!!) it is all relative which is why I said this.
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I still cannot believe you don't get it. That is exactly what Wane is interested in, only getting protection for Sam. When he talks about 'not just the Sa incident', he is talking about other incidents on Sam, not on other players across the league.
Wane is in a better position to judge on what is happening to Sam, then many of the other people on this forum. At the end of the day foul play is foul play, whether it is relative across the league or not.
Ref's will take note of Wane's comment and whether they realise it or not, they will now be paying even closer attention to Sam in the next few games. So if any player was to try any foul play, it would be very stupid indeed.
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "What has that got to do with this topic?
I think he's suggesting the ape is a hypocrite
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior]Ref's will take note of Wane's comment and whether they realise it or not, they will now be paying even closer attention to Sam in the next few games. So if any player was to try any foul play, it would be very stupid indeed.'" ]
Yes, because Shane Wane has spoken and they shall obey.
Alternatively, the celebrity ref's who don't like being told what to do will come down like a tonne of bricks on anything that Wigan's forwards do that looks like retaliation. "Ref's will take note of Wane's comment and whether they realise it or not, they will now be paying even closer attention to Sam in the next few games. So if any player was to try any foul play, it would be very stupid indeed.'" ]
Yes, because Shane Wane has spoken and they shall obey.
Alternatively, the celebrity ref's who don't like being told what to do will come down like a tonne of bricks on anything that Wigan's forwards do that looks like retaliation.
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "I can't believe you are persisting in pretending that standpoint makes any sense.
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| Quote: bren2k "Yes, because Shane Wane has spoken and they shall obey.
Alternatively, the celebrity ref's who don't like being told what to do will come down like a tonne of bricks on anything that Wigan's forwards do that looks like retaliation.'"
It worked when Luke o'donnell tried taking the law into his own hands after Nathan brown moaned in the same way,
Oh........
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "Oh no I get it.
It's just embarrassing for him,for the game and for for Wigan.
Its all rather pathetic.
Unfortunatly the Wigan fans have jumped to the usual stupid viewpoint that is all just a case of jealousy.
It isn't but as usual the Wigan fans can't see thought their cherry and white specs and that itself in the most embarrassing and pathetic thing.
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "
We get it, alright. Its typical comments as above that differentiates between a Wigan Fan and a Wigoon, your constant minority stance or opinion on the situation suggests you may be the latter.
The RFL will never accept Wanes suggestive protective impartiality.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Oh no I get it.
It's just embarrassing for him,for the game and for for Wigan.
Its all rather pathetic.
Unfortunatly the Wigan fans have jumped to the usual stupid viewpoint that is all just a case of jealousy.
It isn't but as usual the Wigan fans can't see thought their cherry and white specs and that itself in the most embarrassing and pathetic thing.'"
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| I think the more pertinent question is when are refs going to protect the RFL from Sam Tomkins?
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| Quote: P-J "I think the more pertinent question is when are refs going to protect the RFL from Sam Tomkins?'"
These forum boards need like buttons.
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