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thats a very selective choice on non SL leagues isnt it? what about the Premier League? La Liga? almost all of soccer? These sports are massive and worldwide bigger than the NFL, NRL, and NBA, they enjoy more money coming into the game, bigger tv ratings and premier league is the most saleable sports league on the planet by a fairly comfortable distance.

Besides, i dont think anyone would be arguing against the SC if it was in the hundreds of millions of pounds like the NFL and NBA and allowed us to bring in the very best players from around the world.

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Quote: cod'ead "All you have to do is look at all those bankrupt, skint sporting clubs in USA. Strangely enough American Football, hockey, basketball and baseball all operate within a cap.'"


It's unfair to compare with US sports because of the college draft system, which is pretty much unique in world sport and provides a constant influx of talent into all of their professional sports leagues on an annual basis at no cost to any of the teams. There is no academy system in any professional league over there and teams do not develop their own young players prior to drafting them. The exception is the MLS, mainly because soccer is the only sport that is played to a higher level outside the US

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Quote: The Chair Maker "If we move away from RL and just look at Business as a whole, we find that the most creative and successful business sectors tend to be those were there are a significant number of similarly sized organisations able to compete on a mainly even keel with each other. This drives them to look at all possible avenues to move their business forward.

Now compare those business sectors to those that have a single or limited number of all powerful near monopolistic suppliers. What you see then is an organisation that moves at a much slower pace.

With the Salary cap the aim is to create a dynamic internal playing market, one that will create coaches who wont win the league by buying the talent but will win it by developing players and creating innovative systems to keep ahead of the rest. Players themselves wont be able to merely overun opponents they will have to work hard on developing their game and playing at the best of their ability. Examples of this are the NFL, NRL, NBA.
These sports enjoy huge popularity and get massive TV ratings

Now look at the monopolistic league with no salary cap and one or two all powerful clubs. With this there is no need to develop players and innovate on and off the pitch, all that matters is the wealth to buy up anyone that may threaten your hegemony. The end result is a league with a small cadre of talented players all with one or two clubs, and low playing standards because those talented players dont even need to break sweat to win games. The classic examples of this are the Scottish Premier League and Rugby League in the mid 1980's to mid 1990's. These sports become regarded as jokes and see a decline in popularity and TV ratings.'"


I don't think you'll find many people on here that want the Cap abolished altogether but although the aim of evening the competition is applaudable, the reality is that all the Cap has ended up doing is hold back the stronger teams and bring them down to the level of the weaker clubs, rather raising the standard of weaker teams, resulting in a weaker competition as a whole. There is no incentive for anyone to improve anything with the way the cap is curently structured

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Quote: dirtbag83 "I don't think you'll find many people on here that want the Cap abolished altogether but although the aim of evening the competition is applaudable, the reality is that all the Cap has ended up doing is hold back the stronger teams and bring them down to the level of the weaker clubs, rather raising the standard of weaker teams, resulting in a weaker competition as a whole. There is no incentive for anyone to improve anything with the way the cap is curently structured'"


The big clubs need holding back, particularly Wigan. Bought for a fiver and wouldn't exist now if it were not for Dave Whelan needing a multi-use angle for planning permission on his new stadium for Latics.

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Perhaps we could have SC bands A, B, C etc.. with penalties.
The higher band the club want to be in, the less they get from the RFL pot. That extra money can then be used to support the lesser well off clubs, to build with.

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The salary cap should be lower, Most clubs can;t afford it and it has done little to create an even competition due to this. I would set it at 1.2million but allow bonus spending for players that will actually add to the game ie:

1.2mill base
an additional 250k to spend on any Welsh or French International standard RU player signed
and additional 250k to spend on any current Australian or NZ Test player
an additional 25k for every player your club develops through your own jnr programme
players that have olayed 10 years for one club are cap exempt

that would do me.

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Quote: JB Down Under "The salary cap should be lower, Most clubs can;t afford it and it has done little to create an even competition due to this. I would set it at 1.2million but allow bonus spending for players that will actually add to the game ie

That would do most big clubs. They would have an extra £300k on current cap levels just on the academy players bit.

But clubs can't afford to spend more, so there really is no need to let them.

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Quote: Saddened! "That would do most big clubs. They would have an extra £300k on current cap levels just on the academy players bit.

But clubs can't afford to spend more, so there really is no need to let them.'"


Maybe they should be spending more on having feeder clubs icon_wink.gif , then they could share ' facilities ' like grass fields , balls and tackle bags icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Maybe they should be spending more on having feeder clubs
You and your short sighted attitude is making me regret my £20 donation to Leigh RLFC's survival fund icon_wink.gif

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My question was should the Salary Cap be increased and I think I got my answer it all depends on which club support

Thats a real shame because I am first a rugby league supporter who supports the national team and realise doing nothing now would mean we have to bring as many NRL players across to play for England as possible or we have no chance against the Kiwis never mind the Aussies

2nd im a Hull FC fan and wish we could sign players like Cooper Cronk as the club can afford it but why would he want to come and play in a sub standard league

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Quote: JB Down Under "The salary cap should be lower, Most clubs can;t afford it and it has done little to create an even competition due to this. I would set it at 1.2million but allow bonus spending for players that will actually add to the game ie
And what about the players? what do they get in return for their cut in wages?

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Not that it's any of my business , but it should be higher , but until all or more are able to spend up to it with ' earnings ' , then it will stay approximately where it is

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Quote: Starbug "Not that it's any of my business , but it should be higher , but until all or more are able to spend up to it with ' earnings ' , then it will stay approximately where it is'"
And where is the incentive for those clubs to sort out their marketing, strategy, player development, academies? None - as they aren't the ones being held back.

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Quote: Donna "And where is the incentive for those clubs to sort out their marketing, strategy, player development, academies? None - as they aren't the ones being held back.'"


Yes but they're safe from relegation icon_wink.gif

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