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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Horatio Yed "TBF, the 1st person who put [iClassic Tomkins[/i was getting that'"


Just couldn't resist because its Leeds icon_biggrin.gif

Nobody likes losing and most fans are bad losers, but Leeds are definantly the worst. Even most wire fans after the QF admitted we were the best team etc.

All Leeds fans have done is moan about decisions etc. some went FOR them as well, they moan about Tomkins, what about their players at the end also being bad losers...

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Quote: Odemwingie "Just couldn't resist because its Leeds
Most of the posters on here slating Tomkins (and the decisions on the other thread) aren't Leeds fans but don't let that stop you blaming it on being bad losers icon_rolleyes.gif

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I watched the game from a neutral point of view with perhaps a slight preference to back Wigan. When Vomkins gave the V sign my support swayed to Leeds, then when the rub of the green mostly went Wigan, I wanted Leeds to win.
At one point I was thinking the officials were on a secret agenda,, decisions from touch judges, field ref, video ref all going to Wigan.
Vomkins needs to do a crash course in sportsmanship, or will the RL accept this behaviour as an acceptable standard to promote the game.

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Quote: Judder Man "I watched the game from a neutral point of view with perhaps a slight preference to back Wigan. When Vomkins gave the V sign my support swayed to Leeds, then when the rub of the green mostly went Wigan, I wanted Leeds to win.
At one point I was thinking the officials were on a secret agenda,, decisions from touch judges, field ref, video ref all going to Wigan.
Vomkins needs to do a crash course in sportsmanship, or will the RL accept this behaviour as an acceptable standard to promote the game.'"


And what did you think when the rub of the green went mostly against Wigan (2nd quarter of the match)?

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Can't wait to see the rat being taught a lesson by Slater, Lockyer, Smith etc in the four nations icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif

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He should resist - he's supposed to be a professional. Hope he's shot his man of steel chances by his actions - besides he didn't play that well yesterday - maybe he's believing his own hype. The disciplinary committee need to show him that nobody is above the rl law.

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Its a shame such a talent is such a dweeb.

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Quote: joetwizzy "If you didn't see it...

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Is no-one else concerned at his freakishly large fingers? Look like ET fingers. Something's not right there. The RFL should investigate those first.

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Quote: Fishsta "And what did you think when the rub of the green went mostly against Wigan (2nd quarter of the match)?'"


Was that when Lima put the sky high shot on Peacock 3 metres from the line. Leeds retaliated and Wigan got a relieving penalty to escape from the try line. Or was it when Charnley talked the touch judge into Wigan head and feed by telling the tj that it was that little bloke Burrows who intentionally put the ball in touch on the last ball contact.

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Quote: Bovrick "Absolute idiot, if the precedent wasn't already there to show he shouldn't get a ban, I'd want him to be banned. Sadly, if he is now it would be just as farcical.'"



Other incidents have been mentioned on here with claims nothing was done---- did anyone complain to the rfl or players' club about these incidents or did folk just witter about it on forums? Everyone is looking to the rfl for this- Wigan as a club should take the lead.
Hutch maiava did something similar to the hudds crowd a few years ago- that incident was reported to hull fc by members of the crowd including me- and maiava was disciplined by fc, who dealt with it very seriously - all credit.
My kids idolize all rugby players I don't want that sort of behavior to be a role model for my kids, if that comes across as sad I make no apology for it. I expect my kids to show respect for others no matter what - players as professionals should be leading by example. I didn't see eorl crabtree sticking v signs when booed and called names by saints fans last week.
sam is getting stick - but he has himself to blame for it - if he can't handle it then perhaps wigan should organize anger management classes. That young man is very lucky I suspect if he didn't have rugby he'd have nothing as he wouldn't last two minutes in other employment.

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Quote: littlerich "Is no-one else concerned at his freakishly large fingers? Look like ET fingers. Something's not right there. The RFL should investigate those first.'"

icon_lol.gif are you saying he's not of this world

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Quote: Willzay "Can't wait to see the rat being taught a lesson by Slater, Lockyer, Smith etc in the four nations
Are you Australian then?

If not, you're a complete idiot.

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Quote: jools "Other incidents have been mentioned on here with claims nothing was done---- did anyone complain to the rfl or players' club about these incidents or did folk just witter about it on forums? Everyone is looking to the rfl for this- Wigan as a club should take the lead.
Hutch maiava did something similar to the hudds crowd a few years ago- that incident was reported to hull fc by members of the crowd including me- and maiava was disciplined by fc, who dealt with it very seriously - all credit.
My kids idolize all rugby players I don't want that sort of behavior to be a role model for my kids, if that comes across as sad I make no apology for it. I expect my kids to show respect for others no matter what - players as professionals should be leading by example. I didn't see eorl crabtree sticking v signs when booed and called names by saints fans last week.
sam is getting stick - but he has himself to blame for it - if he can't handle it then perhaps wigan should organize anger management classes. That young man is very lucky I suspect if he didn't have rugby he'd have nothing as he wouldn't last two minutes in other employment.'"


The Eastmond incident has also been referred to as being similar. Eastmond was suspended by Saints while it was investigated, hardly treated lightly by the club.

It will be interesting to see the stance that Wigan take.

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He was clearly just letting everyone know that Charnley had scored the try with broken fingers.

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i undertsand some people are a little upset, but coming out with crap like 'i cant wait for the aussies to smash him' does nothing except give more defensive ammunition to those who would blindly defend this completely unacceptable behaviour. Nor does the punishment(or lack thereof) given to someone else in a completely unrelated incident in a different game, involving different teams have any real bearing upon sam tomkins actions yesterday. precedent is a cop out, what he did yesterday is just unacceptable regardless of what lee smith last season or the guy who bullied you at age six got away with.
its just not on, it cannot be reasonably defended and the actions of others at other times are no justification for doing it or going unpunished.

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