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| Quote: BackrowSaint "I've never previously had any problem with Cockayne at all, I didn't like him but I didn't dislike him, yes his assault in 2009 was stupid but who hasn't been in a fight at some point in their life.
I never said he threatened the taxi driver I was using them as examples of what would happen if people weren't allowed to be reprimanded for their words as well as their actions. The incitement of racial hatred (which includes racist comments) is a crime, however you want to dress it up. The police investigation will end up with a slap on the wrist and he may or may not lose his job.
The point I am making is you are not allowed to just go round making such comments as they are illegal. You can be arrested for just swearing as a breach of the public peace. The combination of both his words used makes this a problem. If he had just used the word P*** then he may of got away with it. As it is he called him a P*** C*** which makes it racially offensive.'" Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.
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| Quote: headhunter "Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
Oh of course, I'm perhaps not putting myself across clear. If it was said by a random Joe (you or me) from the general public it would go without a fluttered eye lid. It's the fact that he is in a professional occupation where he could be seen as a role model to young kids that makes the situation worse. Unfortunately, racism is apparent in most places you look in day to day life, but the 'professional' sports stars will be held accountable for their actions if they do something like this in the public domain.
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| Humberside Police now investigating the matter.
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| to$$er!!
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| Quote: headhunter "Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
I think we are far enough beyond 1970 to assume that even using the P word is socially unacceptable. He should be sacked by Hull KR and banned by the RFL.
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| Isnt it about time this scumbag was banned from Rugby League for life.....He is the only player I watch in RL who I hope someone gives a serious injury.
Lower than low - anyone who saw the CCTV recording of his sustained and unprovoked attack which resulted in his criminal record could see that. (what a joke our criminal courts are that he didnt do time inside!!)
People like this run our game down, hes not even that good but is just a dirty little hull scrubber IMO and the sooner his RL career is over the better!
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| Quote: Saddened! "I think we are far enough beyond 1970 to assume that even using the P word is socially unacceptable. He should be sacked by Hull KR and banned by the RFL.'"
Strange you say that, coming from Hull we don't have a large Asian community so I had always assumed the general attitude in places like Bradford, Leeds and the like would be one of 'multi culturism' and 'racial harmony', but since I have been involved in many areas where their are large Asian communities its clear that its NOT the case. I deal with builders who are mainly in the social housing sector and it is quite suprising what the attitudes towards Asians (and the language used) is on these sites. I regularly hear the managers and workforce bemoaning the money being spent on 'Effin Paki's' while 'nowt gets spent on white people', in fact its often seems that the image of multi culturalism and harmony is just something put out by politicians and those with a vested interest in it. If anything, it seems in the 'real world' the P word as you call it, is in fact a very common occurence.
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| Quote: gerr'emonside "Isnt it about time this scumbag was banned from Rugby League for life.....He is the only player I watch in RL who I hope someone gives a serious injury.
Lower than low - anyone who saw the CCTV recording of his sustained and unprovoked attack which resulted in his criminal record could see that. (what a joke our criminal courts are that he didnt do time inside!!)
People like this run our game down, hes not even that good but is just a dirty little hull scrubber IMO and the sooner his RL career is over the better!'"
Normanton, actually but don't let a fact spoil your adolescent rant.
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| Quote: vikingsmurf "i agree! depending upon how deep you actually want to go it involves equal measures of degree level biology, chemistry and Nutrition before you even get to the exercise science itself. not to mention if not degree level then certainly advanced level mathmatics, and in many cases advanced diplomas in various sports related disciplines also.'"
Damn!
I was saving all that up for my reply.
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| Quote: The Clan "Damn!
I was saving all that up for my reply.'"
As I have a degree in Sports Science I can confirm that it is indeed a highly scientific subject. Biomechanics alone is a very technical area.
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| Oh and C0ckhead is pond scum but no doubt he will get a rousing rendition of "Charlie Charlie" from the Rovers fans during the derby
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| Quote: headhunter "Throwaway comments to a friend that a 'p*ki c*nt owes me money' do not constitute 'incitement of racial hatred'. If they did, I think a large percentage of the country would be in trouble. I understand your sentiment, comments like Cockayne's are not nice or clever. But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
it may not be racial hatred but it is still disgusting that he thinks it is okay to make them comments to a friend. He is a racist and I hope Hull KR throw the book at him!
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| Quote: headhunter "But they are not out of the ordinary and certainly not worth making such a fuss over. As mentioned, you see far worse on Facebook and hear far worse on the street every day.'"
Pleased I don't live anywhere near any of your streets.Even soccer took it more seriously,years ago.
rlIt Was Spain Where They Were Racially Offensive To English Playersrl
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| Quote: Hutchie "www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid
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