So let's have facts here -

Andy Powell would command a wage of a top rugby league player but has no guarantee of becoming a top league player.
He would need time to learn the game and not hit the ground running.
He would create less media interest than the Gareth Thomas transfer.
He had a chance to play rugby league but turned Wigan down as there was not enough money offered.

Do you think this is the player we need to sign in our current situation SFSL?

So after being shown up in this debate and being owned with no reply you have taken to attacking my username

Yes I think Scorpions should have a five year plan to get into super league. Theres a thread for that debate. Lets get back to this topic and why dont you try and reply to what I have said?

Quote: crucrucrusaders "So let's have facts here - Andy Powell would command a wage of a top rugby league player but has no guarantee of becoming a top league player. He would need time to learn the game and not hit the ground running. He would create less media interest than the Gareth Thomas transfer. He had a chance to play rugby league but turned Wigan down as there was not enough money offered. '" Not one of those is actually a fact. They are your opinion, which is based on your personal bias and pathetic phobia of rugby union. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/fact

Quote: crucrucrusaders "So let's have facts here - Andy Powell would command a wage of a top rugby league player but has no guarantee of becoming a top league player. He would need time to learn the game and not hit the ground running. He would create less media interest than the Gareth Thomas transfer. He had a chance to play rugby league but turned Wigan down as there was not enough money offered. '" Not one of those is actually a fact. They are your opinion, which is based on your personal bias and pathetic phobia of rugby union. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/fact

Quote: Scorpions for SL "So after being shown up in this debate and being owned with no reply you have taken to attacking my username How have you shown me up? I have not had a go at your user name but the thread you started and showed yourself up in numerous times. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=457662&start=0 The debate is buy a top class existing rugby league player/spend the money on youth development or get Andy Powell on board. I think the first option is the best. You keep coming out with random things like Powell is paid loads in union and it isn't about money. Why did he speak to Wigan then and why did he turn them down? I couldn't care what you think to be honest. I know what I think and want what is best for Crusaders. That for me would be a proven rugby league player and consistent performer. To you the best option is a union player that will take time to learn the game and may never make the grade. Both would cost the same and opinions differ, that's life. Oh and if you're at a loss as to who the moron is here read the Scorpions thread you started again. That more than clears it up.

Quote: Scorpions for SL "So after being shown up in this debate and being owned with no reply you have taken to attacking my username How have you shown me up? I have not had a go at your user name but the thread you started and showed yourself up in numerous times. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=457662&start=0 The debate is buy a top class existing rugby league player/spend the money on youth development or get Andy Powell on board. I think the first option is the best. You keep coming out with random things like Powell is paid loads in union and it isn't about money. Why did he speak to Wigan then and why did he turn them down? I couldn't care what you think to be honest. I know what I think and want what is best for Crusaders. That for me would be a proven rugby league player and consistent performer. To you the best option is a union player that will take time to learn the game and may never make the grade. Both would cost the same and opinions differ, that's life. Oh and if you're at a loss as to who the moron is here read the Scorpions thread you started again. That more than clears it up.

The more I read the posts of this cretin the more I feel it is a reincarnation of a previous poster in the Barry McKenzie style.

As I have already said. It is not a choice between youth development and powell, crusaders can have both. Whether or not crusaders sign powell, youth development will be on going. Signing powell will in fact help with youth development as more young players will be encouraged to play rugby league and follow in his foot steps.


I brought up how much union internationals earn in response to your claim powell was moving to league for the money, but in fact he would earn more money if he stayed in union. Making you a fool. Nobody knows why he didnt sign for wigan, other than yourself obviously who somehow knows andy powells inner thoughts and secrets. You know what is best for crusaders so your an expert in running new clubs in expansion areas, crusaders wouldnt last the season with you in charge, meda coverage isnt important and all that.

Correct me if im wrong, but by 2012, the scorpions will have existed for 3 years. You say scorpions 4 sl is a moron because he thinks that by then, they may be ready for an spot in superleage. How long exactly was it from the crusaders being founded, to their first season in superleague? It would seem from this, that the RFL dont to think it would be moronic

Crucrucrusaders, i really dont see how you can call anyone a moron, when your whole argument until now, has been completely fallacious.

You used a rlfalse dilemmarl several times, when claiming the crusaders have to chose between prioritising youth development, or can prioritise signing union players, completely ignoring the fact that signingunion players will increase the clubs profile, getting them new fans (who will spend money, which can be used for amongst other things youth development), and will encourage a lot more kids to take up the sport. And yes i saw your comment that the club dont need increased exposure and a larger profile, because people already know who they are - I think this is a ridiculous statment to make, and seemingly, so does every company in the world, because they all spend money on advertising - Do you think anyone doesn't know about coca cola? using your logic they shouldnt bother spending on advertising, last year they spent 3 billion dollars on advertising. Apparently you know more about marketing and advertising, than the marketing departments of all the worlds major companies

Crucrucrusaders, you are a joke!

Funny though really but crucru cares an awful lot about his team and has put in the best part if 10k miles in the last 2 years alone following them. I've actually seen crucru at both cru and scorpions games. Scorpions for sl though ,well that's a troll and will be until the day we meet face to face. So he/she/it/you are open to critism for appearing from nowhere and stirring it with nonsense. For the sake of having no actual real life but to make multiple accounts and drip on a fan forum

How come widness and scopions are never online together?

Actually how come widness was online scorps wasn't then widness went offline and scorps appeared online. That is very strange and lets face it a bit sad surely if you need someone to talk to you can phone the Samaritans

So im barry mckenzie and widnes till i die

No your a pleb.

Your a troll, stop derailing the thread

Pmsl coming from you! What was that other account tb said you had shut down?