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There are some rather thought-lacking replies in this thread, mainly by those wanting to see the end of licensing clutching at whatever excuse they can to support their view.

Anyone who is saying that the RFL have already decided who will go down and who will go up is a paranoid idiot. All that has been said is that a club WILL go down. Why? Most likely because the RFL have decided that it is not financially viable (or in the interests of the attractiveness and competitiveness of the competition) to expand the competition in 2012. So in order for "at least one club" to come up from the Championship (as was stated), then a club WILL go down.

How anyone can read into that that the RFL have decided the clubs already is beyond me.

I am neither for or against P&R or licensing. We have tried one, and are in the middle of another so might as well give it a shot and see how it goes before judging it. And any club that struggles during that period cannot instantly be the result of licensing like most P&R supporters like to claim, as clubs were struggling before.

Some people just need to get a grip.

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Could it be that the RFL know the financial viability of a particular SL club is much worse than any of us think?

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Quote: ajhcrusader "Who are 'Celtic'?

If you're talking about 'Crusaders Rugby League', you may want to consider that we are currently playing in a ground that will be fully redeveloped by 2012. So, if we don't get our own shiny new stadium, we have a contingency plan.

You may also want to consider our development system. Our Under 18's won the National Youth League last season (and have only lost one this season), our Reserve team won their league the previous season. Then there's the small matter of Elliot Kear, Ashley Bateman, Lloyd White, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Geraint Rhys Davies, Lee Williams and Lewis Mills. All products of the Crusaders short four year stint as a club, all Welsh, and all European Champions.

I'd hate to see Wakey or Cas out of SL by the way, I liked both sets of fans down at ours, and enjoyed my only away trip this season up to Wakey, but stop posting such drivel.'"
If you finish bottom for the next 2 year which i think you will you deserve to in the other divison.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Toulouse and Widnes in. Wakey and Crusaders out.'"


A any specific reasoning for this wisdom that you've shared with us?

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Quote: littlerich "In that regard, St Helens should be averaging 20,000.But they aren't. In fact, they're barely average 10,000 themselves.

Does it matter?'"


Indeed, I said it for ages , If we at Hull had a team like Saints and played there style of rugby , We'd pull in a crowd of 20k +. Why Saints dont get these crowds is baffling.

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At least this announcement will end all the people on the other recent threads stating " it doesn't mean a club dropping out , they might expand the comp "

No doubt there will be a few twitching bums out there and a few phone calls in the morning to various interested parties [ councils and developers ] icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Chorlton RL "Being a resident of Manchester I know that the residents of Manchester will not go to Salford for a sporting event and little or no people know about the City Reds because it is in Salford.'"

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Being a resident of England I know the residents of England think your musings on this subject are hilarious.

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Quote: B0NES "Indeed, I said it for ages , If we at Hull had a team like Saints and played there style of rugby , We'd pull in a crowd of 20k +. Why Saints dont get these crowds is baffling.[/quote]

Possibly because you can sit at home or in the pub and watch them every 2 weeks on the TV

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Wellsy13 "There are some rather thought-lacking replies in this thread, mainly by those wanting to see the end of licensing clutching at whatever excuse they can to support their view.

Anyone who is saying that the RFL have already decided who will go down and who will go up is a paranoid idiot. All that has been said is that a club WILL go down. Why? Most likely because the RFL have decided that it is not financially viable (or in the interests of the attractiveness and competitiveness of the competition) to expand the competition in 2012. So in order for "at least one club" to come up from the Championship (as was stated), then a club WILL go down.

How anyone can read into that that the RFL have decided the clubs already is beyond me.

I am neither for or against P&R or licensing. We have tried one, and are in the middle of another so might as well give it a shot and see how it goes before judging it. And any club that struggles during that period cannot instantly be the result of licensing like most P&R supporters like to claim, as clubs were struggling before.

Some people just need to get a grip.'"


Surely saying that one club will be relegated from SL and one Championship club will be given a SL licence, they are pre-judging licence applications 2 years early?

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Quote: Pepe "Surely saying that one club will be relegated from SL and one Championship club will be given a SL licence, they are pre-judging licence applications 2 years early?'"


No , What they are saying is that the current SL clubs applications will be judged against each other and the clubs applying from outside will be judged against each other , but not all together

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Harlequins - what is the point ????????
Hardly ever get crowds above 3,000.

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Quote: Starbug "No , What they are saying is that the current SL clubs applications will be judged against each other and the clubs applying from outside will be judged against each other , but not all together'"


But that's madness!

You could end up with a Championship club being moved up to SL that isn't as good as the SL club it replaced, because they were not competing against each other?

Surely this cannot be right?

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Quote: Starbug "No , What they are saying is that the current SL clubs applications will be judged against each other and the clubs applying from outside will be judged against each other , but not all together'"


which if you go back to before the first franchise you will see a fair few people in their explanation of the franchise process explained this would be exactly the case

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Quote: Pepe "But that's madness!

You could end up with a Championship club being moved up to SL that isn't as good as the SL club it replaced, because they were not competing against each other?

Surely this cannot be right?'"


I dont really see any other conclusion

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Quote: Bradleigh "Harlequins - what is the point ????????
Hardly ever get crowds above 3,000.'"


Leigh, whats the point, an area we already have a strong SL team and they even had to have the RFL bail them out on Champ one...

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