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Quote: Maximus Decimus "
It's not all guesswork. The last time we negotiated our deal, they came in with an offer that most people thought wasn't good enough for our sport. There were people on here saying we should refuse it, we should keep the internationals separate etc etc. Sky came back with a reduced offer for the same thing and we had to take it.
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I agree with most of what you've said on this thread but my recollection of those negotiations is very different. Sky made an offer, the RFL turned it down, people involved in TGG started predicting all sorts of doom and gloom scenarios, Sky made another offer and the RFL accepted it.

I don't remember hearing anything to suggest that the final deal was for less money, in fact I think it was for more money but with a three year deal instead of the previous five year ones. If it was less money how can the RFL afford to increase SL club grants from £850,000 to £1,200,000 a year, and for 14 not 12 clubs?

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Quote: belgianxiii "If England-A were involved in the European Championship, could we sell that to the BBC? Or a Euro-Pacific cup?

Could we add to the current international calendar and try to sell those matches as a seperate package?'"



Do you want to watch an England A game? I don't. Does anyone? Can you get 5,000 to an England A game even in Yorkshire?



Give TV companies what they want. Its that simple.

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Union is played by people who close airports after a bit of snow, League is played by people who would go and have a snowball fight with a 747 [quote="loyal18":esgriioj]sorry but warrington/hudds = lucky win defo should of been saints/wigan final the fact is saints n wigan were extremely tired from the week before we both gave our all ahh well only challenge cup. grand final is the big one ahah anyway good luck in final hudds hope u stuff wire[/quote:esgriioj] [img:esgriioj]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/264/lasttacklejt2.jpg[/img:esgriioj]:15810.jpg



Each package goes to the highest bidder.
Smaller bidder pays astronomical fee to beat off Sky
Bidder doesn't secure enough customers to make bid profitable
Bidder struggles financially
Bidder goes bust
Sky gets package

You could call it the Setanta system, or ITV Digital system

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



As sure as Video Killed the Radio Star,
SLY TV saved Pro RL in this country.

They plough in the money that keeps at least 8 of the 14 clubs afloat and are now giving exposure to the Championship....what more do people want?
The BBC treat and show RL like it is still stuck in the 50's (the sport, not the BBC......BUT THEN AGAIN...) and the "other stations" are really on their butts. C5 and C4 are in real danger and ITV are laying off people every day in the regions.

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How much have sky paid for the four nations games at the end of the year? Why didnt the RFL sell all the games to the bbc. Im sure theyd have been interested in them, it might of been less money than sky are paying but wouldnt the exposure for international RL of been worth it?

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Quote: rhinofox "How much have sky paid for the four nations games at the end of the year? Why didnt the RFL sell all the games to the bbc. Im sure theyd have been interested in them, it might of been less money than sky are paying but wouldnt the exposure for international RL of been worth it?'"


Well there has been a compromise as 1 game is on the BBC but if this happened then Sky's £54m contract would quickly become £30m as the internationals get alot of viewers and Sky value them

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Quote: loyalsince1904 "Well there has been a compromise as 1 game is on the BBC but if this happened then Sky's £54m contract would quickly become £30m as the internationals get alot of viewers and Sky value them'"


It's two games on the BBC. They have England v Australia and France v Australia. I'm not sure if they are shared with Sky mind but Sky will at least have delayed coverage of both as well.

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Quote: gutterfax "As sure as Video Killed the Radio Star,
SLY TV saved Pro RL in this country.

They plough in the money that keeps at least 8 of the 14 clubs afloat and are now giving exposure to the Championship....what more do people want?
'"



Exactly. Without Sky we'd have gone on with regional action on Granada and Yorkshire TV and then gawd knows where after they merged into the national ITV.

This splitting packages is a bad idea. The Scottish SPL have split its coverage between Sky and ESPN but that just forces fans to have to pay two subscriptions to see every game. Madness!

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Quote: loyalsince1904 "Well there has been a compromise as 1 game is on the BBC but if this happened then Sky's £54m contract would quickly become £30m as the internationals get alot of viewers and Sky value them'"

So you think the TV contract for the four nations is worth £24m? I very much doubt it, if it was so valuble internationals would be played all year round as they are in RU.

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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "
The BBC do such a great job on the Challenge Cup
'"


I think I'm watching the wrong challenge cup

"errrrrr that was just a super errrr ball errrr back in my day eerrrr the ball was made of stone errrrrr could try eerrrrrr over to you welshman"

"well this is a well worked try, this guy passes to this guy *draws annoying white line on screen* and then he runs in here and some bloke stood in this corner puts the ball over the line....can I go home? I dont want to be here"

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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



Quote: RAI of Sunshine "Each package goes to the highest bidder.
Smaller bidder pays astronomical fee to beat off Sky
Bidder doesn't secure enough customers to make bid profitable
Bidder struggles financially
Bidder goes bust
Sky gets package

You could call it the Setanta system, or ITV Digital system'"


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Quote: Batesy "I think I'm watching the wrong challenge cup

"errrrrr that was just a super errrr ball errrr back in my day eerrrr the ball was made of stone errrrrr could try eerrrrrr over to you welshman"

"well this is a well worked try, this guy passes to this guy *draws annoying white line on screen* and then he runs in here and some bloke stood in this corner puts the ball over the line....can I go home? I dont want to be here"'"


Well in fairness I think they've made a start by seemingly making Dave Woods the main commentator this year although I'll wait and see if he gets the final.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Bilko "Well in fairness I think they've made a start by seemingly making Dave Woods the main commentator this year although I'll wait and see if he gets the final.'"

Knowing the BBC it will be given to the guy who does Castlefords commentary for their home games on Superleague TV.

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Quote: gutterfax "Knowing the BBC it will be given to the guy who does Castlefords commentary for their home games on Superleague TV.'"


Morgy? He'd be brilliant on the Final icon_biggrin.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: tb "Morgy? He'd be brilliant on the Final the commentary on the Cas v Quins game this year was classic.....

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