The Goulding appointment shows that Larrat has little idea about rugby league coaching. It doesn't follow that therefore he knows nothing about French business or culture. He is after all a successful lawyer in Toulouse.

Wayne Bennett is one of the great coaches of all time. It doesn't follow that he knows much about the business side of rugby league...he may do, but there is no necessary connection.

Understanding the game, and understanding the business are two separate skills.

sorry but thats just a load of BS.

france doesnt have enough pro players for an international team and needs a 2nd side to do that.

umm wtf is a fly half ???

thats a union term

more BS.

toulose are there as a test for SL.

LEs Cats have a limited potential to develop RL in france.

toulose has a big population and is a wealthy city so its needed to give RL critical mass in france.

also have a side which is not associated with the catalans thing could be good as well.

ive got no doubt in SL toulose would get bigger crowds than les cats.

the game could do with a big city club in france

les cats have done really well, but they cant really get that much bigger

Whatever our theories as to what TO is doing in the UK they are just that. Whatever reasons the RFL have had for introducing TO to the Championship what they will look to get out of it will change depending on their performance - we have seen that the RFL is happy to change their plans to suit the circumstances.

A second French club in SL would help, but I don't think it is what is needed now: to have some effect we would need enough players to fill in the second SL squad. TO would not improve the national squad unless they had players that could compete with Catalan players. Better having a mostly french squad at Catalans competing with Leeds/Saints and exposing those players to a higher level of Rugby than two French clubs scrapping it out with Huddersfield and Wakey.

Toulon, not Toulouges - the latter is a small village near Perpignan which has an amateur RL team.

It's not really true, though.

Only Toulon & Stade Francais are where they are because of wealthy benefactors. British SL has a much higher number of rich man's playthings, in fact.

Even for those two clubs, there is significant public funding - of the order of 2 million euro from the Paris Mairie for Stade last year (still less than PSG football got which is a source of current political arguing). When Toulon got promoted, their funding from local councils went from 1.8 to 2.6 million euros - they get cash from the town mairie, the departement and the regional government. In other words, their guaranteed annual budget from taxpayer handouts is on a par with some SL clubs, before they have taken a cent in ticket sales, corporate sponsorship, tv rights, merchandising etc.

Maybe next time you talk to Carlos, you can ask him whether TO get more money from local government or "large companys"?

news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_l ... 300343.stm lewis talking about a 2nd french SL side

news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_l ... 300343.stm lewis talking about a 2nd french SL side

Lewis' hypothesis, now 2 years out of date. As I have said, the RFL will make a decision based on what is best at the time, not what the current pipe-dream is.

What makes you think that he still does not adhere to this view?

having 2 french team in Super League means twice 10000 or 14000 french people in RL Stadium.

Or French are not aussies and love their national team;

that also means 20000 or more for French National matchs.

Aussies love their national team too. It is just that they are bored with seeing them win most of the time.

But I agree that you will get these numbers of spectators at the French SL clubs matches. Les Catalans will have an 11,500 capacity for 2010, which it desperately needs for its matches against Leeds, St Helens, Wigan and others.

There are several thousand rugby league fans living in the Aude region who don't attend TO matches now, but who are likely to jump on the train or into their car to attend Toulouse Super League home games. I can see TO in SL getting 10,000 average attendances within three years of admission into Super League.

it proves what the RFLs intentions are re toulose.

toulose are certainly not in NL1 to act as a feeder club for les cats.

its up to les cats to sort themselves out re their juniors without worrying about someone else to do it for them

toulose are in NL1 as a prelude to entry in SL

Right back at you.

typo corrected.



Well, looking at the squad as it stands, they desperately need our UTC players to succeed in the Championship, a deal apparently agreed on this front. So they will provide a higher comp for our juniours to have a hit-out, exactly what we want from our feeder club. We don't need them to develop players for us, we have that in hand thank you.

Again, this is your opinion of what TO is doing in the Championship, gazing into your crystal ball. Currently they are struggling in the Championship and if the player loans work out they will be working as our feeder. Currently they are adding interest to the Championship with an international aspect. In 2010 they will need exceptional progress in/off pitch to have a squad that will beat 'Fax and Widnes. If they don't they will stay in the Championship for another 3 years.

Your crystal ball predictions are the obvious conclusion, but they are not what is currently happening. Unless they can change to fit the SL criteria in ~18 months (unlikely) the obvious conclusion will not match with the facts.

toulose will be in SL next time. of that i am 100% certain.

im fairly confident that if they dont win an NL1 title within the next few years, they will be exempted from that condition.

and once in SL they will become a massive club.

Toulose were very unlucky to miss out last time. indeed their sponsors and financial backing was said to be stronger than when LEs Cats won their SL bid.

your posts strike me as being a little insecure that another french club might harm les cats.

it wont, its small minded thinking