And yet Aukland, Brisbane, Canberra, Canterbury, Cronulla, NQ and Penrith do?

That argument doesn't make sense.



You've completely ignored the point of the post again.



Ideally, it shouldn't, as I said. But, as I said, given the choice between losing one of the weaker Sydney teams to gain the same fan base elsewhere in an untapped market seems a worthwhile exchange.

Sydney would not be lost to RL on the back of one team moving. But that one team could open up a new market elsewhere.



Which is why I haven't suggested doing that.



I agree, QLD need another team. But I don't agree that the NRL should do merely that, and feel smug. there are other markets which need to be addressed alongside this.



I always get slightly nervous when people mention Wellington. NZ produce loads of top players, but I'm not sure they're quite ready for another NRL franchise.

From what I can gather, outside of the heart of RL in NZ (Aukland) Wellington is the next strongest area.



Adelaide, I can understand. Not Perth; you're always going to have less TV cash than the AFL.

"Look! We've got another team in QLD!"
"So what? They were all watching the NRL anyway, it adds no extra value to our TV stations."



Looks good, but that setup will be a long, [ilong[/i way off.

I'm intrigued by a PNG team, but can't for the life of me see how it would be arranged.

I'm sure a good performance from the Kumuls in the coming weeks would increase the calls for such a team, but unfortunately I don't think the money or the political will is there.

news ltd chose which SL clubs to keep and which to kill off. no perth team now is the fault of news ltd. news ltd had the power to make the choice because perth went to news ltd. so its their fault they are no longer in.

im not saying we should ignore perth forever. i am saying though that other areas can offer more for the game now, and if we ignore perth next time round its not that bad.

just because AFL has a team in all capitals doesnt mean we need them now.

more queensland teams would improve the ratings as there would be more high ratings games in queensland which they would watch. more people from queensland would watch a game form their club than a perth team.

PNG - the nrl has looked at a joint venture between darwin and PNG, with darwin being the training facilities and 1/2 the games and PNG the rest.

re wellington - given the number of kiwi RL players in the nrl and overseas, NZ could easily handle another side. indeed we would keep more of our juniors that go to the dark side.

The Gold Coast were also axed in the formation of the NRL; they therefore shouldn't be in the NRL. They made their bed by staying with the ARL, etc.



I'm not suggesting you are!

But long term plans need the planning to start [inow[/i. The Perth junior team is doing all the right things, with apparent support from the appropriate people in the game.



Remind me, what is the money difference in the TV contracts between the NRL and the AFL?



But the Perth team brings greater exposure, and is a more powerful statement to the press and the RL fans in Aus. It opens up a market you otherwise would not have access to.



Seems like a half measure, to me; I'd prefer the franchise to be based in PNG, but I appreciate the difficulties with that.



Most of the NZ juniors seem to come from the NRL academies, so I'm not sure those that leave for RU are motivated by being unable to get a place in any other NRL team. They're motivated by money; another NRL team means more places available at first grade (more cash), and in Wellington is undoubtably more attractive than in Aus for native NZ'ers.

But I don't believe we're not losing juniors because there's not enough teams, we're losing juniors because we're up against the allure of an All Blacks jersey, and fair enough.

the guy that claims to be a RL fan and also surfs at night.




good luck with those waves at night bro

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AFLs fans start a petition calling for them to have State of origin : www.gopetition.com/petitions/bri ... tball.html AFL player wants origin football to return : www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008 ... 240447.htm AFL boss wants state or origin : www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 49754.html RL : 3 origins, internationals and a world cup, plus a team in NZ. AFL : essendon vs carlton

1. the gold coast didnt choose to turn their back on the games founders and the group that brought them into the comp. perth did. karma.

2. the money difference is a result of the SL war and the ownership of news ltd of RL.

3. a perth nrl team will take a decade of losses of millions of dollars to take off. a perth team has done nothing for union, their crowds have fallen qutie a bit. queensland clubs will be strong from day one. id rather have more strong clubs in the nrl atm and leave perth for later.

4. players like jonah lomu and tana umaga were RL juniors who we lost along the way through lack of opportunity. another NRL team offering more money than semi pro will help us keep our talent.

the ABs jersey doesnt mean much, they are losing their best players to france as well. we need to get the player salaries up to a level where union in the SH cant compete then we will have all the best talent.

the S14 is failing, union is no longer a threat to RL from australia or NZ.

Yes, by definition.

All this bloody expansionism, you have to be kidding!!

1. Boot all QLD teams & NZ out of the NRL

2. Bring back Newtown, Norths, Wests & Balmain, maybe even Glebe & UNI, possibly even Annandale ( what a great blast from the past that would be!!)

3. Change name back to NSWRL

4. Burn down ANZ & the Football stadium & make a law that all grounds must have a grass hill & must sell KB in cans ( preferably the old style heavy duty tins )

5. Bring back proper Kangaroo tours, all palyers must grow ridiculous beards & moustaches & must play Euchre, all non drinkers to be banned from tour, two teams to be picked with the nuffys playing midweek against club teams & the kangaroos saved for the big games on weekends.

6. get rid of all these poxy third world islanders & sheep fiddling kiwis

where would souths rabbitohs play