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Quote: JB Down Under "rubbish, majority of our squad are 23-27 yrs old. although by the very nature of nature you could of course describe it as an "ageing" squad! you do realise players between 23 and 27 arent 'young' players right?

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Quote: Starbug "Salary cap is nothing to do with overseas quota , HTH'"

but clubs are the organisations set up to oversee the operations of the teams , their main concern is generally their own welfare , ie the need to remain in the comepetition , achieve as high a finishing position as they can and make sensible business decisions for their own and the teams benefit.

Surely this justifies removal of the cap as much as it justifies HKA employing so many overseas players.

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Quote: pmarrow "If you can't see how having lots of inexpeirnced average youngsters playing the game will make our competition worse and the English team then I'll throw that idiot right back at ya.

Lets be honest you've only started this thread to try to have a go at Rovers.'"

because if everyone is throwing in lots of inexperienced average British youngsters then it will be the team who better prepare better British youngsters who will win. Then clubs will know that to win, the advantage they need to seek, if they are to win, are advantages which mean that they bring through more, better prepared, better british youngsters.

Which means that the clubs throughout the league are in competition to bring through, more better prepared British youngsters, and to be successful they will have to go out scout, sign, coach, prepare more British youngsters, from more areas, they will be forced to innovate in the areas of youth development and sports science, and as a result we as a sport will over time have more, better players, playing at a higher level and catching up and eventually overtaking the NRL to become the best rugby competition on the planet.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Outstanding....Hull Kingston Australians .....the conveyer belt of talent is working...proof rlHERErl icon_rolleyes.gif
English born Academy skipper with 2 first grade games in 2010 let go.......proof that Glory is all that is on the minds of that clubs owners....at the expense of the development of English players.

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Quote: gutterfax "Outstanding....Hull Kingston Australians .....the conveyer belt of talent is working...proof rlHERErl
Surely if he is good enough he will be a stand out player at the Dons and then move up the ladder

I dont really see the relevance , this has happened thousands of times before and will continue to happen thousands of times again

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Far too many poor quality English players hindering the career paths of mediocre aussies if you ask me.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Starbug "I dont really see the relevance'"

Scott Spaven, Born 6 March 1990 (age 20) Born in Hull, England
William Mason Born 15 April 1980 (age 30) Born in Auckland New Zealand

Re-read the thread title, flick through the pages and pages of excuses from Hull Kingston Australian fans about it taking time to develop players...the need to have 10 overseas players whilst this re-building of the club moves forward etc etc.....Scott Spaven was deemed good enough to be called upon in 2010 for the first team......he wasn't made captain of the Academy to compensate for his lack of skill and yet he is now a Championship 1 grade player who will show his skills at places like the London Skolars in 2011..........bit of a drop from Odlsum v Bradford.......

As long as clubs are allowed to bend the rules on overseas players then the RFL may as well give up on International against either of the 2 Southern Hemisphere teams........

Teams like Catalans, London and Crusaders had/have a need to field overseas players and then whittle the number of imports down.....until they are fielding local players. The french and the cockneys have shown what can be done, but for a club with 130 Years of History to use the excuse that they were in the lower divisions just doesn't hold water........and more worrying, unlike Scott Murrell who was a product of the leeds academy, they are now letting prospects go from their own area......supposedly to help balance the books/make room for the 30yr old has beens like Mason. If Mason was as good as they say, he would be plying his trade in the NRL.......as it is, he has been pretty ordinary for the last 2 years +.....

So there's the relevance.......a SL team let a player go, a player that was deemed good enough to captain their academy and step up to the first 17 when needed, whilst filling their ranks with overseas players.........

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Quote: gutterfax "Scott Spaven, Born 6 March 1990 (age 20) Born in Hull, England
William Mason Born 15 April 1980 (age 30) Born in Auckland New Zealand

Re-read the thread title, flick through the pages and pages of excuses from Hull Kingston Australian fans about it taking time to develop players...the need to have 10 overseas players whilst this re-building of the club moves forward etc etc.....Scott Spaven was deemed good enough to be called upon in 2010 for the first team......he wasn't made captain of the Academy to compensate for his lack of skill and yet he is now a Championship 1 grade player who will show his skills at places like the London Skolars in 2011..........bit of a drop from Odlsum v Bradford.......

As long as clubs are allowed to bend the rules on overseas players then the RFL may as well give up on International against either of the 2 Southern Hemisphere teams........

Teams like Catalans, London and Crusaders had/have a need to field overseas players and then whittle the number of imports down.....until they are fielding local players. The french and the cockneys have shown what can be done, but for a club with 130 Years of History to use the excuse that they were in the lower divisions just doesn't hold water........and more worrying, unlike Scott Murrell who was a product of the leeds academy, they are now letting prospects go from their own area......supposedly to help balance the books/make room for the 30yr old has beens like Mason. If Mason was as good as they say, he would be plying his trade in the NRL.......as it is, he has been pretty ordinary for the last 2 years +.....

So there's the relevance.......a SL team let a player go, a player that was deemed good enough to captain their academy and step up to the first 17 when needed, whilst filling their ranks with overseas players.........'"



Sort of like replacing the likes of Mcarthy-Scarsbrook and Sharp with Bailey and Nick the greek? you mean

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: MrPhilb "Sort of like replacing the likes of Mcarthy-Scarsbrook and Sharp with Bailey and Nick the greek? you mean'"

Exactly like that! Well spotted.

LMS has been signed by a top 2 team.....that's a step up. Sharp has joined another team that have performed far better than Quins in recent years...this is also a step up. It is also proof that the conveyerbelt of yoof in London isn't an immaginary pipe dream, but a fact.
We will field more locally developed talent than ANY SL team in 2011.....and we are sticking to the rules on overseas players....we LOST overseas players over the last couple of seasons to injury/retirement etc....we have room on our Quota.....and yet we are still promoting from within.....developing our own talent and complementing it with the CORRECT/PERMITTED number of overseas players.....

Hull Kingston Australians are building for a different future....the future financial stability of has been/never was NRL players.

Again...well spotted. LMS who is 24 yrs of age and going to a top 2 team is being replaced by a 26yr old player from the 2nd best team in the NRL....just like 20yr old HULL born lad being jetisoned to The lower leagues make way for a 30yr old player, past his best, from a bottom half of the table NRL outfit....the similarities are amazing.
As for Bailey.......he again is a like for like replacement for an outgoing London Academy prospect off to a bigger SL club.....and he also fits into our quota allowance.........the one HKR are ignoring

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Quote: gutterfax "Exactly like that! Well spotted.

LMS has been signed by a top 2 team.....that's a step up. Sharp has joined another team that have performed far better than Quins in recent years...this is also a step up. It is also proof that the conveyerbelt of yoof in London isn't an immaginary pipe dream, but a fact.
We will field more locally developed talent than ANY SL team in 2011.....and we are sticking to the rules on overseas players....we LOST overseas players over the last couple of seasons to injury/retirement etc....we have room on our Quota.....and yet we are still promoting from within.....developing our own talent and complementing it with the CORRECT/PERMITTED number of overseas players.....

Hull Kingston Australians are building for a different future....the future financial stability of has been/never was NRL players.

Again...well spotted. LMS who is 24 yrs of age and going to a top 2 team is being replaced by a 26yr old player from the 2nd best team in the NRL....just like 20yr old HULL born lad being jetisoned to The lower leagues make way for a 30yr old player, past his best, from a bottom half of the table NRL outfit....the similarities are amazing.
As for Bailey.......he again is a like for like replacement for an outgoing London Academy prospect off to a bigger SL club.....and he also fits into our quota allowance.........the one HKR are ignoring'"




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Quote: gutterfax "Exactly like that! Well spotted.

LMS has been signed by a top 2 team.....that's a step up. Sharp has joined another team that have performed far better than Quins in recent years...this is also a step up. It is also proof that the conveyerbelt of yoof in London isn't an immaginary pipe dream, but a fact.
We will field more locally developed talent than ANY SL team in 2011.....and we are sticking to the rules on overseas players....we LOST overseas players over the last couple of seasons to injury/retirement etc....we have room on our Quota.....and yet we are still promoting from within.....developing our own talent and complementing it with the CORRECT/PERMITTED number of overseas players.....

Hull Kingston Australians are building for a different future....the future financial stability of has been/never was NRL players.

Again...well spotted. LMS who is 24 yrs of age and going to a top 2 team is being replaced by a 26yr old player from the 2nd best team in the NRL....just like 20yr old HULL born lad being jetisoned to The lower leagues make way for a 30yr old player, past his best, from a bottom half of the table NRL outfit....the similarities are amazing.
As for Bailey.......he again is a like for like replacement for an outgoing London Academy prospect off to a bigger SL club.....and he also fits into our quota allowance.........the one HKR are ignoring'"



Rovers aren't ignoring it, they will have 5 quota players. The maximum allowed

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Gutterfax, you're fighting a losing battle: No-one cares about Quins, you have no fans, 99.9% of people in London couldn't care less about Quins RL, it hasn't worked in 30 years and it never will. icon_mrgreen.gif

Hull KR on the other hand have made steady progress ever since our debut season in SL, we have attendances and merchandise/pass sales that Quins RL can only dream of. So, it really leaves only one emoticon...



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Quote: MrPhilb "Rovers aren't ignoring it, they will have 5 quota players. The maximum allowed'"


And two more than Quins can afford. icon_wink.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



That flushed a few of you out....but I am wondering if it was worth the effort icon_biggrin.gif

For the record, Hull Kingston Rovers will have more foreigners than any other SL team in 2011......how you bend the rules or get past them is neither here nor there.

Financial issues......icon_lol.gif Keep the stones in your pockets when in the glass house lads.......

Roofs........I suspect that you are second only to me with regard to our pre-occupation with attendance figures for London home games.......except I can understand mine...your just a nutter icon_biggrin.gif

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