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| Quote Raggytash="Raggytash"Toulouse will help the National leagues immensely by keeping Widnes down when the next franchises are handed out.'"
Shut it!
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| Quote -VIKINGMAN-="-VIKINGMAN-"Shut it!'"
It made me laugh 
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| Quote Leyther_Matt="Leyther_Matt"
can't say that I've noticed increased media coverage in this country on account of Catalans inclusion in Super League.'"
Then you have not been paying attention.
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| Quote Willa="Willa"I couldn't care less if toulouse helped NL1, neither can the RFL. It is the NL1 that is there to help toulouse develope into a SL club.'"
That's not the question though is it?
The question was:
Will Toulouse’s inclusion help the clubs in NL 1 and NL 2?
Not:
Do we care if Toulouse’s inclusion will help the clubs in NL 1 and NL 2?
Sadly you are probably correct in this assumption:
[i'It is the NL1 that is there to help toulouse develope into a SL club.'[/i
I'll take the liberty of translating this into English:
'It is NL1 which is there to help Toulouse develop into a SL club.'
This is why the NL's have been totally undermined as a fair competition and this could kill them, along with all the clubs currently in these leagues.
Quote Willa="Raggytash"Toulouse will help the National leagues immensely by keeping Widnes down when the next franchises are handed out.'"
You’re probably correct. But that’s because the sport lacks any integrity at the highest level.
All these interesting attitudes from fans of SL clubs, towards expansion clubs, would do a bloody quick about face if their own club was threatened. 
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"That's not the question though is it?
The question was:
Will Toulouse’s inclusion help the clubs in NL 1 and NL 2?
Not:
Do we care if Toulouse’s inclusion will help the clubs in NL 1 and NL 2?
Sadly you are probably correct in this assumption:
[i'It is the NL1 that is there to help toulouse develope into a SL club.'[/i
I'll take the liberty of translating this into English:'It is NL1 which is there to help Toulouse develop into a SL club.'
This is why the NL's have been totally undermined as a fair competition and this could kill them, along with all the clubs currently in these leagues.
You’re probably correct. But that’s because the sport lacks any integrity at the highest level.
All these interesting attitudes from fans of SL clubs, towards expansion clubs, would do a bloody quick about face if their own club was threatened.
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I don't want to be offensive so I will not call you a prick, but I really want to. You should spend your time developing a personality instead of picking faults with gramma on a forum.
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| Quote Willa="Willa"I don't want to be offensive so I will not call you a prick, but I really want to. You should spend your time developing a personality instead of picking faults with gramma on a forum.'"
Right, so no argument then?
I very rarely comment on the grammar other posters, as I'm well aware of my own short Cummings. I did so this time in order to insure that I, and others, fully understand what you meant. Thus I can then make comment on your argument within, what I thought, was it’s true context. It was also, admittedly, meant to be a little pithy, due to the attitude of your previous post.
I also like to address people in the same way I would to their face. There's really nothing sadder than an internet hard man. 
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"Right, so no argument then?
I very rarely comment on the grammar other posters, as I'm well aware of my own short Cummings. I did so this time in order to insure that I, and others, fully understand what you meant. Thus I can then make comment on your argument within, what I thought, was it’s true context. It was also, admittedly, meant to be a little pithy, due to the attitude of your previous post.
I also like to address people in the same way I would to their face. There's really nothing sadder than an internet hard man.
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Utter Twaddle.
Please start again in english please.
P.s I have no argument. I initially stated that I could not care less and that is still the case. You were correct in your initial translation though.
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| Will Toulouse’s inclusion help the clubs in NL 1 and NL 2?
IMO, No. I know that the RFL will help teams to get money together to go to the South of France but with the current economic downturn I can't see how this helps anyone. Players from other Championship teams may need a day off work if they do work causing lost wages etc, teams fans wont be able to shell out to go and watch their team causing a loss of money to Toulouse and the area. Should of left them in the Elite imo, we all know they will be Super League come 2012.
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| The banter that has been going on is good, but for the game. We all question the inclusion of Toulouse, and having been and interviewed their director, I can tell you that they want to compete, not just make up the numbers. Also, they want to welcome suporters from other teams, and show them that the game in France is getting stronger.
That other game (where they kick a round ball between two sacks), seems to thrive on European competition. Rugby League has had the foresight to include that into it's leagues don't you think, firstly with the inclusion of the Dragons, and now with Toulouse? The old adage that the game should be played by teams within the M62 corridor, and b**ger the rest, leads to inward looking and stunted ideas. I may not agree with all that the Rugby League does, but in this case, I think they have got it right. (Better than having a play-off series where you pick who you play!) How about we give it a go and see what the future brings, and hope that the game goes from strength to strength.?
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| Quote carlos innuendo="carlos innuendo"The banter that has been going on is good, but for the game. We all question the inclusion of Toulouse, and having been and interviewed their director, I can tell you that they want to compete, not just make up the numbers. Also, they want to welcome suporters from other teams, and show them that the game in France is getting stronger.
That other game :13koxxse(where they kick a round ball between two sacks), seems to thrive on European competition:13koxxse. Rugby League has had the foresight to include that into it's leagues don't you think, firstly with the inclusion of the Dragons, and now with Toulouse? :13koxxse The old adage that the game should be played by teams within the M62 corridor, and b**ger the rest,:13koxxse leads to inward looking and stunted ideas. I may not agree with all that the Rugby League does, but in this case, I think they have got it right. (Better than having a play-off series where you pick who you play!) How about we give it a go and see what the future brings, and :13koxxsehope that the game goes from strength to strength.?[/
Yes football does thrive at European level , but the clubs that play in those competitions are at the top of thier domestic leagues and are all by and large well supported and well financed
They are not from the bottom end of the proffessional game in these country's were there is a serious lack of funds available as is the case in RL
The ' old adage ' you mention is one I personnally have never heard anybody say , and I am happy and hopeful that RL will be played everywhere in the world one day , but I dont want that to ' Impact ' on the clubs and competition we already have
Also in football clubs are playing in a competition that is seperate from thier domestic competition and it has no bearing on individual clubs ambitions unlike Toulouses inclusion in the Championship
If it was just about moving all the game from strength to strength then fine , but it isn't it is about moving Toulouse from Elite 1 to SL
A totally different scenario
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Yes football does thrive at European level , but the clubs that play in those competitions are at the top of thier domestic leagues and are all by and large well supported and well financed
They are not from the bottom end of the proffessional game in these country's were there is a serious lack of funds available as is the case in RL
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Good points, you are suggesting that it would be better to see a France-England cup for the top teams as opposed to adding TO to the Championship? You make a good point that comparisons to "association football" are not that good, but I think the point that international compettition will increase interest is correct (even if it is done differently) and I think that the options are to add a side to the Championship, SL or not to go ahead with it. For TO inclusion to the Championship is obviously the way forward and I think that the extra interest generated in that compettition will be good for all clubs involved.
As an aside, "country's" is still the possessive, not the plural (which would be "countrys"). This does not detract from your argument, but will help your written english (especially since this is an error that spell-checkers tend to overlook).
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| Quote belgianxiii="belgianxiii":2bd4qscdGood points, you are suggesting that it would be better to see a :2bd4qscdFrance-England cup :2bd4qscdfor the top teams as opposed to adding TO to the Championship? You make a good point that comparisons to "association football" are not that good, but I think the point that international compettition will increase interest is correct (even if it is done differently) and I think that the options are to add a side to the Championship, SL or not to go ahead with it. :2bd4qscd For TO inclusion to the Championship is obviously the way forward and I think that the extra interest generated in that compettition will be good for all clubs involved.:2bd4qscd
As an aside, "country's" is still the possessive, not the plural (which would be "countrys"). This does not detract from your argument, but will help your written english (especially since this is an error that spell-checkers tend to overlook).'" but existing hardcore fans are not the problem for clubs outside SL , keeping those fans who no longer see a purpose to a league without promotion and attracting new fans is the problem
Yes for Toulouse it is the way forward , but that is what we all know anyway , it was interesting that when they were ' allowed ' an overseas quota of 5 because they had already signed 5 players back in october and yet they have only just announced who those players are
Just another ' pet ' ' gimmick ' club , and the last one did nothing for the NLs and I dont expect this one to do anything for them either , which is not a problem except the amount of money being wasted on travel costs
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