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Nah it will be the cutting-edge Catalans beating the lacklustre Leeds Rhinos or the woeful Warrington Wolves

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Catalans would take just as many fans as Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield. They have been in a Challenge Cup Final before and the attendance was massive.

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Quote: Trinity18 "Any neutrals planning on making the trip over?'"

It’s only a short journey for Wigan fans.
Who would they support?
Obviously Catalans against Saints, but would they then back Warrington or Leeds?

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Quote: Call Me God "I was there (unlike you) and the Catalans official tour group were not sat on the halfway line, but behind the sticks which I though was weird, but eh, unlike you, they're French......'"


I was behind the sticks and there where a lot of French fans in the upper level behind me.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Catalans would take just as many fans as Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield. They have been in a Challenge Cup Final before and the attendance was massive.'"

As we told your other ID, Catalans made the first CCF back at Wembley and brought 3/4,000 at most. Catalan v Leeds/Wire would be lucky to get 65,000 this year......the last time Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield played at Wembley they attracted 97,939, 81,623 and 94,218 respectively......and these were just regular finals, not the first in a new stadium.
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Quote: Call Me God "As we told your other ID, Catalans made the first CCF back at Wembley and brought 3/4,000 at most. Catalan v Leeds/Wire would be lucky to get 65,000 this year......the last time Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield played at Wembley they attracted 97,939, 81,623 and 94,218 respectively......and these were just regular finals, not the first in a new stadium.
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Salford V Castleford 1969 the third highest attendance for a Challenge Cup final at Wembley.

I think any final these days will be lucky to get much above 70k.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Salford red all over "Salford V Castleford 1969 the third highest attendance for a Challenge Cup final at Wembley.

I think any final these days will be lucky to get much above 70k.'"

St Helens v Wire/Leeds 70K+
Catalans v Wire/Leeds 60K if we're lucky....
....but you're right, we need the RFL to do more to try and fill Wembley Stadium.

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Quote: Call Me God "As we told your other ID, Catalans made the first CCF back at Wembley and brought 3/4,000 at most. Catalan v Leeds/Wire would be lucky to get 65,000 this year......the last time Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield played at Wembley they attracted 97,939, 81,623 and 94,218 respectively......and these were just regular finals, not the first in a new stadium.
HTH I don’t have another ID as has been stated numerous times Gutterfacts.

Catalans have already played at Wembley in front of 84,241

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "I don’t have another ID as has been stated numerous times Gutterfacts.'"

Hello pot......have you met kettle?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Catalans would take just as many fans as Salford, Huddersfield or Wakefield. They have been in a Challenge Cup Final before and the attendance was massive.'"

How many times does this need saying?? 2007 was the first Wembley final in the new stadium, there were thousands of neutrals there which simply doesn't happen anymore.

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Quote: Karen "How many times does this need saying?? 2007 was the first Wembley final in the new stadium, there were thousands of neutrals there which simply doesn't happen anymore.'"


Also the Club Wembley seats are now only counted if actually sold, previous years you could easily add 10,000 to the attendance for seats that were, in fact, empty.

Who cares how many fans a club takes, if they win the right to play in the CCF then that is all that matters.

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Thousands of neutrals attend every Challenge Cup Final

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Quote: Leigh_Manning "
Who cares how many fans a club takes, if they win the right to play in the CCF then that is all that matters.'"

Agreed. Some fans seem to think the league table should be based on attendance, or number of away fans.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Agreed. Some fans seem to think the league table should be based on attendance, or number of away fans.'"


a league table isnt far wrong when you put it in average attendance order....

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