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Quote Albion="Albion"Who is james Deighton? This is the team he submitted (no joke):
Zak Hardaker (Leeds); Ryan Hall (Leeds), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kallum Watkins (Leeds), Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield); Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Tim Smith (Wakefield); Jamie Peacock (Leeds), Daryl Clark (Castleford), Andy Lynch (Castleford), Brett Ferres (Huddersfield), Weller Hauraki (Castleford), James Donaldson (Bradford)
m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/29175604
It's no wonder this lacks credibility when you have these sorts of people choosing???'"
Whoever chose that team has one hell of a Yorkshire bias.
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Quote Albion="Albion"Who is james Deighton? This is the team he submitted (no joke):
Zak Hardaker (Leeds); Ryan Hall (Leeds), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Kallum Watkins (Leeds), Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield); Kevin Sinfield (Leeds), Tim Smith (Wakefield); Jamie Peacock (Leeds), Daryl Clark (Castleford), Andy Lynch (Castleford), Brett Ferres (Huddersfield), Weller Hauraki (Castleford), James Donaldson (Bradford)
m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/29175604
It's no wonder this lacks credibility when you have these sorts of people choosing???'"
Whoever chose that team has one hell of a Yorkshire bias.
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"yet he makes less meters per carry.. has less tries, less assists, has made loads more errors and has made alot less tackles.
your 'clincher' only really shows that you have been over reliant on him to do your forwards work, which could be argued has weakened his try scoring ability.
maybe you should play him in the second row.'"
He's made more errors because he's made nearly 200 more carries! And Monaghan's played in the centres a fair few times this year hasn't he, which would explain why he's made more tackles.
But does the dream team really mean that much anyway?! 
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Notice all your odd choices are Leeds players, not biased are you'"
Err....no. The only extra Cas player I've said should be in is Sneyd ahead of Brown. I said Lynch deserved a place but Hill and Peacock are always going to be ahead, so how am I biased? If that was the case, I'd have selected Huby, Millington, Lynch, Carney?
As for your comment regarding Leeds, perhaps that's because 38% of the team is made up of Leeds players and they have the most players in, most of which are contentious and shouldn't. And unless I'm mistaken Brown (as per above) and Sean O'Loughlin both don't play for Leeds do they?
Said no issue with Hardaker being in though does raise issue about consistency in choices (Walsh should be in); Hall shouldn't be in plain and simple, ditto Watkins and Ablett. Those three are the ones I'd take out (that's my opinion). Nothing to do with bias. I've provided alternatives I'd choose, feel free to disqualify them at your will.
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| When did the super league dream team get picked based on personality? Hardaker may be a grade 1 a r c e o l e, but he's definitely the best full back in super league.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Err....no. The only extra Cas player I've said should be in is Sneyd ahead of Brown. I said Lynch deserved a place but Hill and Peacock are always going to be ahead, so how am I biased? If that was the case, I'd have selected Huby, Millington, Lynch, Carney?
As for your comment regarding Leeds, perhaps that's because 38% of the team is made up of Leeds players and they have the most players in, most of which are contentious and shouldn't. And unless I'm mistaken Brown (as per above) and Sean O'Loughlin both don't play for Leeds do they?
Said no issue with Hardaker being in though does raise issue about consistency in choices (Walsh should be in); Hall shouldn't be in plain and simple, ditto Watkins and Ablett. Those three are the ones I'd take out (that's my opinion). Nothing to do with bias. I've provided alternatives I'd choose, feel free to disqualify them at your will.'"
There only contentious and shouldn't be in,in your opinion, and a few others, who are only complaining because they are Leeds players.
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| Quote Alex Mc="Alex Mc"When did the super league dream team get picked based on personality? Hardaker may be a grade 1 a r c e o l e, but he's definitely the best full back in super league.'"
With my mods cap on, if you're gonna try and bypass the swear filter, at least spell the swear word correctly fella.
Kinda defeats the point other wise.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"There only contentious and shouldn't be in,in your opinion, and a few others, who are only complaining because they are Leeds players.'"
No one is complaining because they are "Leeds players."
They are complaining because they weren't the best players in their respective positions to warrant being included in the so-called "best team" of SL players, and that includes other players too.
The fact is that Leeds, who have been largely mediocre this season, have players included that tie into that tag in terms of their form; up and down but generally average. Most people are supportive of Peacock and are open on Hardaker being included.
But surely you can admit there is a case for other players? In my opinion, Leeds players have been judged on their CC form, which defies the concept. Interesting stat tonight on Backchat that Hall hadn't scored a try in 70 days before last weekend. His inclusion is odd when you think that Charnley, who has missed 11 games, has still managed to outscore him.
As I've pointed out, I certainly didn't single out just "Leeds players" as you claim. I went down each position and provided my opinion and as I've pointed out O'Loughlin, a Wigan player, shouldn't be in either. Otherwise, Walsh should be scrum half.
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| Quote meast="meast"not sure if it's an indication to the selection of the dream team, but looking at the goldthorpe medal table, only 5 of the dream team are in the top 20 of that table,kevin brown at no.2(27 points) daryl clark no.4 (24),matty smith no.10(17) chris hill no.16(13) and elliot whitehead at no.20(12)
no leeds player in the top 20, sinfield is the highest placed leeds player at 24(11)
of the other players
hardaker no.12 (11)
shenton no.29(10)
o'loughlin no.30(10)
peacock no.35 (9)
watkins no.41 (9)
hall no.50 (8)
makinson no.99 (4)
ablett no.190 (1 point)'"
The Goldthorpe medal is misleading. If you have an outstanding half back in a solid team they will more often than not get the 3 points. Whereas a top team has strength across the board so the points are shared out.
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| If Leeds have 5 of the best 13 players in the league, why are they in 6th?
Are the other 8 of their run on team so bad?
Watkins and Peacock deserve their place
None of the others do & Escare is better than Hardacre
The Dream Team loses all credibility. Is MacNamara involved in it's selection?
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| Quote Code13="Code13"If Leeds have 5 of the best 13 players in the league, why are they in 6th?
Are the other 8 of their run on team so bad?
Watkins and Peacock deserve their place
None of the others do & Escare is better than Hardacre
The Dream Team loses all credibility. Is MacNamara involved in it's selection?'"
6th by a few points - We are however the only team to win a trophy this season.
Also Watkins is the one Leeds player who doesn't really deserve his place. Ablett and Hardaker have been superb. Escare isn't fit to lace his boots but guess we'll see on Saturday...
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| Quote LeedsDave="LeedsDave"6th by a few points - We are however the only team to win a trophy this season.
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Actually, Saints are the only ones to win a trophy in Super league. Not saying its a trophy worth having, but it is the trophy associated with the league. That is after all the competition this team is supposed to be based on ...
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Actually, Saints are the only ones to win a trophy in Super league. Not saying its a trophy worth having, but it is the trophy associated with the league. That is after all the competition this team is supposed to be based on ...'"
Fair point.
The dream team should be decided after the playoffs then surely?
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