My apologies. Down to 12 men.

The good Dr seems to be defending Hock all the way. Tweets say he's spoken to the RFL and all the facts will be announced tomorrow, but I fail to see any "facts" released tomorrow would point to anything other than Hock being a complete liability.

It's because he does a few eye catching offloads and runs. As someone rightly pointed out before people confuse a few flash plays with overall effectiveness.

[iAwful night with the England RL situation. And as I believe it's more than gaz hock. And if it is then everyone must be given same treatment[/i - Bobbie Goulding

For those who says RL is not big news in the South: www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/sport/n ... -1-5612552 Even the hotbed of Dunstable has the story already!

For those who says RL is not big news in the South: www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/sport/n ... -1-5612552 Even the hotbed of Dunstable has the story already!

If that's the case and, as suspected, he's been scapegoated the management need dismissing even at this late stage otherwise the whole thing could run and get worse. If true the management / coach will already have lost any respect the had from the players.

What an absolute sham.

This could get horrible. Gale force wind, lashing rain and a shambolic England on the opening day. Once in a generation opportunity to be laughed at by 60 million Brits.

This is a fecking joke, but I suppose we really need to see what comes out in the wash tomorrow. If it's a case of getting the rotten apple out of the squad then that should be that. If more have been found in breach, then it leaves Macbannana with a serious dilemma: risk the squad imploding, or attempt a certain degree of damage limitation...

That may be true but mar is not an elite level athlete preparing for an event which should be the pinnacle of his career, representing his country before a worldwide audience.

Hock has previous, the others don't. Get over it.

According to senior Business Management all across the world, here are 3 types of employees.

1. Those that [ubuy into your Core Values[/u and [uCan do the Job[/u you need doing the way you want it done.

These people are great and are gold dust.....and few and far between.

2. Those that [ubuy into your Core Values [/uand [uCan't do the Job[/u you need doing the way you want it done.

These people are great as they can be taught/trained to do the job you need doing, the way you want it done.

3. Those that [udo not buy into your Core Values[/u, but can do the job you need doing, the way you want it done.

These are people that senior business leaders around the world all say should be removed form any environment that has intentions of growing/prospering. They are Toxic.

Now, regardless of his talent and ability to play the game, I would identify Hock as a "3"

It may be that "other" players were involved, but they are either #1 or #2 type people and therefore, there is a benefit to keeping them in the squad.