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| Quote: Dreamer "Not sure about that one.
I think the RFL deliberately promised at least one promotion from championship this time to show that they had teeth and were prepared to use them on any SL club that broke its promises.
They may do the same again, if only to keep the dishonest clubs in line.'"
I dont mean the ' guaranteed place ' , that will not happen again , I mean the actual ' qualification to apply ' in 2014 , they havent said if this year actually counts ? , because if it doesn't it , then it de values this years NRC and GF |
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| Quote: pyeman "By the way starbug did you ever provide any evidence that the rules were changed for castleford? i recall you being asked last time only for you to mention a vague memory of a rule many years before 2005.
And how you get that the willows is twice the stadium that wheldon road is, is beyond me, perhaps you would like to give some reasons instead of making throw away comments and not backing them up?'"
Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity , as for the comparison between the two stadiums , dont be bloody silly |
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| Quote: Starbug "Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity , as for the comparison between the two stadiums , dont be bloody silly'"
So in answer to my first question you have no evidence.
And in answer to my second you arent prepared to explain your opinion, rendering it worthless.
Out of interest what did castleford do you to upset you so much? you've had a be in your bonnet about us for a few years. |
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| Quote: Starbug "I dont mean the ' guaranteed place ' , that will not happen again , I mean the actual ' qualification to apply ' in 2014 , they havent said if this year actually counts ? , because if it doesn't it , then it de values this years NRC and GF'"
exactly why they wont say anything!!! they would kill the crowd if they did.
no matter what i'll be going to every leigh game (maybe not the toulouse game this time around) just hope all the other supporters carry on coming |
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| Quote: Starbug "Salford will have a SL stadium , Castleford have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium
It will be wakey , with twitching bottoms at Cas and potentially Crusaders'"
If there are twitchin bottoms at Cas the teams below us in the league better get ready for the results then! |
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "If there are twitchin bottoms at Cas the teams below us in the league better get ready for the results then!'"
Good job it doesn't work like that in the Championships then isn't it ,  |
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So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?
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| Quote: Roofs "So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?'" Yes Roofs Fax are now 1 of 15 names in the frame for 13 places all the SL clubs are in it with them.
Barrow failed in their application so they are now out. |
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| Quote: Roofs "So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?'"
Fax, Yes
Barrow, No |
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Well done to Widnes..as a welshman I remember that fantastic side that Doug Laughton had and full of welsh superstars- Jonathon Davies being one of them. They showed the match he made his debut on live welsh TV
as for The Crusaders losing their spot in Superleague I think some of you guys haven't a clue about the development work that has been done in Wales in the past 7 years and how the game is growing.
the RL and IRL know this and a strong Wales side will help strenghen the International scene. Lets be frank this is one of 2 reasons ( money being the other ) why English RL players pimp themselves by going to Union, to play lots of international games for the England rugger side. Not becuase they are going to see lots more of the ball in a better game.
the Crusaders are the focal point for welsh youngsters who want to play superleague and the RFL ain't going to sink that ship.
IF you do want to educate yourself on one of Britain's fastest growing development area for RL, have a deckko at these websites...and its just the tip of the iceberg
www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=4312
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... their.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... south.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... ation.html |
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Well done to Widnes..as a welshman I remember that fantastic side that Doug Laughton had and full of welsh superstars- Jonathon Davies being one of them. They showed the match he made his debut on live welsh TV
as for The Crusaders losing their spot in Superleague I think some of you guys haven't a clue about the development work that has been done in Wales in the past 7 years and how the game is growing.
the RL and IRL know this and a strong Wales side will help strenghen the International scene. Lets be frank this is one of 2 reasons ( money being the other ) why English RL players pimp themselves by going to Union, to play lots of international games for the England rugger side. Not becuase they are going to see lots more of the ball in a better game.
the Crusaders are the focal point for welsh youngsters who want to play superleague and the RFL ain't going to sink that ship.
IF you do want to educate yourself on one of Britain's fastest growing development area for RL, have a deckko at these websites...and its just the tip of the iceberg
www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=4312
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... their.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... south.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... ation.html | |
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| Quote: Starbug "As bad as the Willows is , it is still twice the stadium that Wheldon Road is , they didn't need a change in the rules to get back into SL '"
Been told to put better bulbs in the floodlights is hardly changing the rules now is it?
As for the Willows being better than Wheldon Road, come off it! Other than Belle Vue the Willows has to be the worst ground in the league.
Quote: Starbug "And unless I'm mistaken , but there is actually a stadium being built at Barton , unlike the ' Mirage ' at Glasshoughton'"
And unless I'm mistaken you're not allowed to build stadia without planning permission....
But, facts don't exactly suit your clear anti-Cas bias now does it?
As for Halifax they'll miss out again in July because matched up with SL clubs they wont beat out anyone but Wakey, and Widnes will be replacing them.
Quote: Starbug "Good job it doesn't work like that in the Championships then isn't it , ![]()
Yep, you can get relegated and complain about it and get reinstated when you're in the Championship
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| Quote: Fax Machine "Assuming that Wakey are the favourite to get the bullet, if they are relegated because of their stadium then they have to relegate Cas as well. If they are relegated because of having been in administration then they have to relegate Crusaders. Oh, but hang on, didn't they drop that rule the week before Crusaders entered administration?
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Why?
you do realise that the stadium is only one criteria. Assuming wakey and cas get exactly same score in relation to the stadium criteria that doesnt mean they are both automatically relegated. Its which of the two is categorised as stronger over the entire set of criteria. At a guess I'd say Cas are ahead over the entire criteria set. |
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| Quote: Starbug "... And unless I'm mistaken , but there is actually a stadium being built at Barton , unlike the ' Mirage ' at Glasshoughton'"
And unless I'm mistaken, planning permission is due to be completed next week with building slated to start shortly thereafter.
Quote: Starbug "Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity ...'"
This is not 'evidence'. A link to some official document or even a proper report in a reputable organ will suffice.
Quote: Starbug "So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July ...'"
Halifax can, but Barrow cannot, because while the former passed the criteria, the latter did not. |
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| Quote: Mintball "And unless I'm mistaken, planning permission is due to be completed next week with building slated to start shortly thereafter.
This is not 'evidence'. A link to some official document or even a proper report in a reputable organ will suffice.
Halifax can, but Barrow cannot, because while the former passed the criteria, the latter did not.'"
There is still nothing there but a pile of dirt , planning permisiion is just a plan , nothing else , when it is actually built , as was promised it would be for 2008/9/10/11/12 , then come back on here and show us the pictures
There was no document or ' report ' , the RFL changed their own rules , that had been given out to all clubs , and didn't make a fuss about it , because they wanted it to be kept quiet , the lowering of minimum standards is not something you would scream from the rooftops is it ? you lot really like acting ' thick ' dont you |
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| Quote: Starbug "There was no document or ' report ' , the RFL changed their own rules , that had been given out to all clubs , and didn't make a fuss about it , because they wanted it to be kept quiet , the lowering of minimum standards is not something you would scream from the rooftops is it ? you lot really like acting ' thick ' dont you'"
So do you have any proof of this or are you, as we all suspect, making it up and making yourself look like a fool? As for acting thick, there's only you acting thick around here...
The ONLY thing the RFL asked Cas to do was change the bulbs in the floodlights, hardly sweeping changes is it? Lowered minimum standards? Come on then, what did they lower? the ground holds 12,000 and is in a better condition than the Shay, Belle Vue, the Willows... |
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