So, o wise one, please tell everyone where the aspirations of Toulouse or London would be, should either or both gain promotion to SL.
Also, if your post is yet another jibe at Trinity, currently in 6th spot and who do have their funding cut (due to the state of Belle Vue), how much more do you think their funding should be cut

Your analogy regarding clubs that, in your words "seeing success as finishing mid table" are just utter piffle.
If the premier league was to apply the same criteria, there would only be 6 or 7 clubs instead of the current 20 clubs and SL would need to be cut to 5, plus of course the mighty Toronto, assuming that they actually gain promotion.

What do you propose with Hull FC and Leeds, both big spending yet, currently under performing clubs or, do you wish to eliminate Huddersfield and Wakefield to ensure they can both finish in the top half of the table or, are you desperate for London to return, with their nomadic existence and 2 bus loads of fans.

Can't speak for Toulouse, but without a new owner, London are fine just where they are thanks.

That’s what we’ve put up with for the last 2 and half seasons. Cant believe we let Betts go without having a proper plan in place instead of that ‘Professional Rugby League’ coach Cummins who is so far out of his depth it’s embarrassing it’s not his fault your not going to say no when only 1 of 12 top jobs become available. Most if not all Vikings fans including myself was calling for Betts to leave but I know now given a few extra players we’ve got in for these qualifiers he would of got us out this situation no problem. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Maybe relegation will do is good, clear the decks, players and boardroom and start again. If only it was that easy!

Yes as a Bradford fan I've spent each year of descent naively hoping for the same thing. I hope it's true for Widnes.

Groundsharing isn't a merger.......building 2 stadiums that close to each other is insanity and let's face it, at least a groundshare stadium would be full once a fortnight when Castleford were at home

Sadly thats all Leigh offer a few vocal fans hence why you keep banging that drum. In most modern sports its a secondary issue.

i like it when clubs with no away fans visit our ground because when they score a try, it's total silence.

Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet?
In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve

No need for that ! I wasn't haven't a go at any one club. I am saying basically you can't beat 'a bit of atmosphere' at a game, how weird am I ?

Quote: Call Me God "Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet? In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve'" You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be d enforcing the agreement . They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them. It's been six years since it was passed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9208564 It makes for very sorry reading but, folk like you just keep pointing the finger and blaming the club and it's fans

Quote: Call Me God "Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet? In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve'" You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be d enforcing the agreement . They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them. It's been six years since it was passed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-League https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9208564 It makes for very sorry reading but, folk like you just keep pointing the finger and blaming the club and it's fans

Back on topic.

My preferred outcome at the end of the Middle 8s would be:

1. Leeds
2. Hull KR
3. Toronto
4. Toulouse
5. London
6. Salford
7. Widnes
8. Halifax

But unfortunately that result will not happen because Salford have signed Jackson Hastings, who has turned their performances around the same way that Catalans signing Joshua Drinkwater turned Catalans performances around.

I now think that the final ladder will probably be:

1. Salford
2. Hull KR
3. Leeds
4. Toronto
5. Toulouse or London
6. Toulouse or London
7. Widnes
8. Halifax

Who would win the MPG if it was between

1. Toronto and Toulouse?
2. Toronto and London?
3. Toulouse and London?

Toronto, Toronto and I reckon London would deal with the pressure better regardless, but if it is in Toulouse it would be a closer game than if it were in London.

The winner of this weeks game in London will be the away team in the MPG unless something goes horribly wrong with the form book....if Fax, Widnes and Toulouse lose this weekend, then they will in all probability make up the bottom 3...the following week will determine if Widnes of Fax will finish bottom, Toulouse 6th, London 5th and it's a toss up at the moment between Leeds and Toronto who will finish 4th/5th........the MPG at Leeds will be twitchy bum time for the SL chairmen and the RFL......

If Toronto can get a win at Salford this week, I think they will finish in the top 3. But that’s a very tough ask against a form team.