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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"I simply don't care. I've never liked the idea of creating clubs and keeping them around in the name of expansion, especially when they're going backwards. There's no community tradition, no history, a poor and dwindling fan base and as far as I'm concerned other clubs suffer for the lack of travelling support.'"
You stand a chance that for the first time in 18 years that London may finish in what would have been a relegation position...the previous 17, we haven't and are therefore deserving of being where we are.
If you are referring to our placement in the first Summer Superleague, then you are simply grasping at straws.
As for Tradition/Community.......we have both....it's just our tradition isn't 100 years old yet. Our community is doing fine.....why don't you google 2012 year 7 National RL Champions ............Howard of Effingham?
Fans are a concern for the owner, the management and the RFL....they are all to do with self appointed RL administrators like yourself who back up their assertions with nothing.
Here"s COLD HARD EVIDENCE to show your away fan theory is a myth.
HKR's Chairman claimed they needed 10k average to break even.....they achieved 7,786 last year. When we called last year, they got 6,713.....at 15 quid a ticket, we cost them 16,000 quid based on that average.........us aside, they fell 26,568 fans short...or 500,000 pounds.......but their Chairman goes on record and blames the expansion teams...because he knows the majority of his flatcapped supporters won't bother looking to deeply into the real problems at the club.
Feel free to repeat this at the other 11 english teams....the results are similar.
London Broncos RLFC have no debts.....there are very few of the 14 SL clubs that can currently say that....we play in a state of the art purpouse built Rugby Stadium.....again, one of a few and we have a youth set up that means we have the same amount of journeymen as most of the other teams in SL.
I am the first to slag off Londons owner, CEO and inept handling of the club by the RFL......but at least I back my assertions up with knowledge and fact. 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"You stand a chance that for the first time in 18 years that London may finish in what would have been a relegation position...the previous 17, we haven't and are therefore deserving of being where we are.
If you are referring to our placement in the first Summer Superleague, then you are simply grasping at straws.
As for Tradition/Community.......we have both....it's just our tradition isn't 100 years old yet. Our community is doing fine.....why don't you google 2012 year 7 National RL Champions ............Howard of Effingham?
Fans are a concern for the owner, the management and the RFL....they are love all to do with self appointed RL administrators like yourself who back up their assertions with nothing.
Here"s COLD HARD EVIDENCE to show your away fan theory is a myth.
HKR's Chairman claimed they needed 10k average to break even.....they achieved 7,786 last year. When we called last year, they got 6,713.....at 15 quid a ticket, we cost them 16,000 quid based on that average.........us aside, they fell 26,568 fans short...or 500,000 pounds.......but their Chairman goes on record and blames the expansion teams...because he knows the majority of his flatcapped supporters won't bother looking to deeply into the real problems at the club.
Feel free to repeat this at the other 11 english teams....the results are similar.
London Broncos RLFC have no debts.....there are very few of the 14 SL clubs that can currently say that....we play in a state of the art purpouse built Rugby Stadium.....again, one of a few and we have a youth set up that means we have the same amount of journeymen as most of the other teams in SL.
I am the first to slag off Londons owner, CEO and inept handling of the club by the RFL......but at least I back my assertions up with knowledge and fact.
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So how many did you take to Hull KR?
I'll place a wager that London and Catalans combined took a hell of a lot fewer than any other SL side.
Good of you to admit you're costing clubs money.
A school 15 miles from the Stoop winning a competition isn't an indicator of a London 'community'.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"I simply don't care. I've never liked the idea of creating clubs and keeping them around in the name of expansion, especially when they're going backwards. There's no community tradition, no history, a poor and dwindling fan base and as far as I'm concerned other clubs suffer for the lack of travelling support.'"
Your opinion of Championship 1 then this year would interest me greatly 
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Good of you to admit you're costing clubs money.'"
£329,440.00....based on £20 a ticket, split between 12 heartland clubs, this is £27,453 each.
If you admit that the average Turn over of a SL club is approximately £5,000,000 then London cost them about half a percent of their turn over.
Sky wanted London........would you rather they took their £1,350,000 a year elsewhere so you could welcome 1,350 halifax fans to your club once a year?
Incidently, using the same maths Catalan cost every club £21,000 , Salford cost each team £15,000.....and Widnes £12,500......all based on attendance v average at £20 a ticket and allowing for those games where the team above attracted a crowd higher than the average.
See....I freely admit to London not bringng away fans and therefore costing the hosts lost ticketing revenue...but I then back it up with facts to show the loss is minimal in the greater scheme of things......
.....as in, a host club in the heartlands would need to attract only a total of 1,350 more home fans to 13 games in a season to cover this "supposed" massive loss.....105 fans per game
Surely with all their sense of community and herritage they won't have an issue doing that....maybe they could pull a Bradford and have a bucket collection 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"£329,440.00....based on £20 a ticket, split between 12 heartland clubs, this is £27,453 each.
If you admit that the average Turn over of a SL club is approximately £5,000,000 then London cost them about half a percent of their turn over.
Sky wanted London........would you rather they took their £1,350,000 a year elsewhere so you could welcome 1,350 halifax fans to your club once a year?
Incidently, using the same maths Catalan cost every club £21,000 , Salford cost each team £15,000.....and Widnes £12,500......all based on attendance v average at £20 a ticket and allowing for those games where the team above attracted a crowd higher than the average.
See....I freely admit to London not bringng away fans and therefore costing the hosts lost ticketing revenue...but I then back it up with facts to show the loss is minimal in the greater scheme of things......
.....as in, a host club in the heartlands would need to attract only a total of 1,350 more home fans to 13 games in a season to cover this "supposed" massive loss.....105 fans per game
Surely with all their sense of community and herritage they won't have an issue doing that....maybe they could pull a Bradford and have a bucket collection
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Quite funny seeing you strop, seeing as my initial post didn't even mention London, but was simply against another new overseas expansion club being thrown into SL. But you still jumped in and spat that dummy right on the floor. And it gets funnier the more emoticons you throw in. I'm not even particularly anti-London, but if you insist on bringing the issue up...
So can you quantify the sh*t atmosphere at most London games due to no travelling fans? Doesn't the game exist for fans? Well, you don't have many, don't bring any and drag the rest of us down.
Go and ask any SL if he'd like a decent away following and the additional pennies they'd bring. And if you think RL would lose Sky if London lost their licence you're sadly deluded.
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It’s interesting in some eyes how London’s multi-millionaire owner Was worse than Salford’s!!!! Can London do nothing right!!
They have no future even with the cheap publicity stunt(s) .'"
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby-league-branson-takes-over-the-broncos-1233350.htmlRugby League: Branson takes over the Broncos[/url
Quote wire quinAfter several weeks of rumour and negotiation, Richard Branson's Virgin group has taken a majority shareholding in the London Broncos - with a promise to make them the best club in the world.
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An annoying publicity seeking RL chairman, promising the earth .... I thought it sounded familiar
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Quite funny seeing you strop, seeing as my initial post didn't even mention London, but was simply against another new overseas expansion club being thrown into SL. '"
Quote Cronus="Cronus"I Another home game for 12 clubs with only half a dozen visiting supporters, a lame atmosphere and almost zero club income, ,snip>......, get rid of London, that other artificial team full of Aussie journeymen. At least other SL clubs won't feel the pinch as much.
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How would sir like his freshly spanked handed to him?
BTW.....I never said that Sky would walk....I simply summised that they might. Either way...with all that herritage and history, as well as a sense of community, surely the 12 hearltland clubs can find 100 more fans per home game.......I mean to say.....it's the heartlands
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BTW.....I never said that Sky would walk....I simply summised that they might. Either way...with all that herritage and history, as well as a sense of community, surely the 12 hearltland clubs can find 100 more fans per home game.......I mean to say.....it's the heartlands'"
Oh well, couldn't be d checking back. Well done. If you call that a booty handing you're easily pleased.
So, have any of those SL clubs come back and answered whether they'd prefer a decent visiting contingent every home game and the pennies they bring?
And it's not an either/or question. Clubs need to find 100s more per game, whilst pushing for bigger travelling support at the same time. Not one or the other. Unfortunately with London in the mix they won't get both.
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Catalans and London are not the only teams with "so many Aussies." Take a look at Hull KR, Wakefield, in fact most of the SL clubs except Leeds and Huddersfield are stacked with Aussies and Kiwis.
Quote Cronus="Cronus"So build a strong Toulouse in a French league. Don't ask fans to fork out more money on 2 trips to France every season and put up with another lame atmosphere when the mighty Toulouse visit..'"
Who is putting a gun to the head of English fans and forcing them to fly to France? They all go of their own free will, and the overwhelming majority love the experience. You should try it. Or don't you travel abroad?
Quote Cronus="Cronus"Oh, and this isn't the NRL. A comparison is irrelevant.'"
It is quite relevant. The distances between many clubs in the NRL is much greater than in the SL. Townsville is more than twice the distance from Sydney than Perpignan is from Salford. Nobody in Sydney area NRL clubs have complained about this problem when North Queensland fans don't travel from Townsville to Sydney. It is only the parochial whinging fans from failing clubs in the north of England who do.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans and London are not the only teams with "so many Aussies." Take a look at Hull KR, Wakefield, in fact most of the SL clubs except Leeds and Huddersfield are stacked with Aussies and Kiwis.'"
And that's a good thing?
Quote JEAN CAPDOUZEWho is putting a gun to the head of English fans and forcing them to fly to France? They all go of their own free will, and the overwhelming majority love the experience. You should try it. Or don't you travel abroad?'"
Fans want to watch the team they support. Why should they have to pay above the odds to do so? Don't be so arrogant as to dismiss the fans - if they stop going the whole game is f*cked.
Oh, and I lived abroad for several years and travel internationally all the time with work. I've been to Perpignan several times and enjoyed it massively, though I've not been in the last couple of years as I resent paying so much to watch my team.
Quote JEAN CAPDOUZEIt is quite relevant. The distances between many clubs in the NRL is much greater than in the SL. Townsville is more than twice the distance from Sydney than Perpignan is from Salford. Nobody in Sydney area NRL clubs have complained about this problem when North Queensland fans don't travel from Townsville to Sydney. It is only the parochial whinging fans from failing clubs in the north of England who do.'"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but crowds in the NRL tend to be bigger. Losing 1,000 travelling fans when you've got 15-25,000 turning up every week is a loss, but of far less impact than when your average gate is perhaps 6-8,000. Multiply that across visits from Catalans, London and according to your epic plan, the mighty Toulouse, and you're impacting club matchday income significantly, and that's before we talk about the flat atmosphere these clubs bring to games with no travelling fans - something you're all conveniently ignoring.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Oh well, couldn't be d checking back. Well done. If you call that a booty handing you're easily pleased.'"
No....you made a false claim, I showed it to be false and unfounded....in fact, based on a lie. Admit you were shown up and do it with some grace....you had your handed to you, end of.
Quote Cronus="Cronus"Correct me if I'm wrong, '" Been there, done that......All I need is an XL T -shirt.
Away fans are nothing.......they are less than 4% of the TV revenue across the board and less than 1% of the Superleague clubs turn over. I suggest you stop digging and support a second local side so you can have a home game to go to every weekend without leaving your postcode 
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