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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"How about the one where Mr Wood aims to make the Championship " Vibrant and worth winning in their own right "
That published ' strategy ' ?'"
in what way aren’t they vibrant competitions worth winning in their own right?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Those are the buggers , do they actually state what they intend to do and how they will achieve it ?'"
Ask google.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"in what way aren’t they vibrant competitions worth winning in their own right?'"
Perhaps when attendances are dipping below 1,000 and clubs are selling their souls to avoid relegation to an amatuer league of death ?
It was Mr Wood that suggested they weren't back in 2008 , and that it was his intention to make them so , so please tell me what he and the RFL have done to achieve this ' Nirvana ' ?
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| I disagree with your premise. I think the Championships are a vibrant competition and they are worth winning in their own right.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"So which document do you have a problem with? The one he wrote in 2001 which began year on year on year growth in pretty much all aspects of the game, taking a governing body which was very nearly bust after the 2000 WC to one which produces regular surpluses despite handing out more funding than ever before to all constituent parts of the game? The one he ordered top lawyer and member of the RFL board and board of the largest sports club in the entire world Maurice Watkins to write? What are your specific issues with the 2008-2013 5 year strategic plan? Whats your beef with the Community Facilities strategy?'"
How did it go, that 5 year plan? Did they deliver? If so, was it a good plan?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I disagree with your premise. I think the Championships are a vibrant competition and they are worth winning in their own right.'"
You attend games ?
So ' Vibrant ' the clubs have voted to move their finals to Halifax and Leigh as opposed to higher profile neutral venues ?
Are they any more ' Vibrant and worth winning ' than they were in 2008 ? , when Mr Wood suggested they needed to become so ? , and if they are how ?
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"How did it go, that 5 year plan? Did they deliver? If so, was it a good plan?'"
So you dont already know? Which would mean that you were simply complaining for the sake of complaining.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"You attend games ?
So ' Vibrant ' the clubs have voted to move their finals to Halifax and Leigh as opposed to higher profile neutral venues ?
Are they any more ' Vibrant and worth winning ' than they were in 2008 ? , when Mr Wood suggested they needed to become so ? , and if they are how ?'"
What is your objective criteria for vibrancy and how are you measuring the worth of winning?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"What is your objective criteria for vibrancy and how are you measuring the worth of winning?'"
Have clubs increased attendances and income streams via increased attendances and sponsorship ?
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| Im not sure that i would agree. But on the point about attendances and sponsorship, im not sure about the sponsorship, from memory it is higher than 2008.
As for attendances, no they arent as high as they were back then, but the vast majority of that drop is down to the fact SL has expanded and the two (by a fair old way) best supported sides have moved up, and 4 less well supported teams have been promoted, which of course would bring down the average.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Im not sure that i would agree. But on the point about attendances and sponsorship, im not sure about the sponsorship, =#FF0000from memory it is higher than 2008. As for attendances, no they arent as high as they were back then, but the vast majority of that drop is down to the fact SL has expanded and the two (by a fair old way) best supported sides have moved up, and 4 less well supported teams have been promoted, which of course would bring down the average.'"
Which sponsorship do you refer to ? , the Co oP to the makers of ' frosty jack mega strong Cider ' ?
SKY obviously dont agree with you as they dumped the TV coverage during that time , Yes we lost Salford , but i was reffering to the last five years since , and yes Widnes despite their on pitch failure were the best supported club , however they still didn't make up the differences presently being seen
And as I said , Mr wood said he wanted the Championships to BECOME ' Vibrant and worth winning ' , and again I ask , what has he and the RFL actually done to achieve that ?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I disagree with your premise. I think the Championships are a vibrant competition and they are worth winning in their own right.'"
And again , do you attend Championship matches ?
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