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I like the new system, my main hope is that we stick with it.

I don;t understand why people find it complicated, top 2 divisions of twelve split into 3 divisions of eight. Simple!

They are getting boged down in the detail which is there just to pre-empt the questions of "But who gets the home games", "which teams do this", etc etc

If that is still to hard, here's a tip. It is in your teams advantage to win every game it plays. Take it from there.

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Is there anything mentioned about seeding in the challenge cup or lack of?

Currently in round 3, semi pro clubs are matched against amateur clubs. The numbers are obviously different now and teams come in at different times

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The biggest issue that is still not pinned down for me will be season tickets and how clubs go about selling them.'"
The clubs have 14 or 15 home games so it's relatively straight forward. They need to tighten up the language used to describe the elements of the season IMO but this is what Leeds have been selling for a month or so:
www.rhinosmemberships.com/memberships
Quote: bewareshadows "
The biggest issue that is still not pinned down for me will be season tickets and how clubs go about selling them.'"
The clubs have 14 or 15 home games so it's relatively straight forward. They need to tighten up the language used to describe the elements of the season IMO but this is what Leeds have been selling for a month or so:
www.rhinosmemberships.com/memberships


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If it's confusing, frankly, you haven't read it properly.

I really like the new structure, even though my club might be battling it out in the Qualifiers next year.

My only gripe with it is the differences in Salary Cap between the two divisions. One, the teams in the Qualifiers should be on a level playing field, but in reality, one team will be playing another who have potentially 60%+ additional cap available to them. Two, if a SL side is relegated from the Qualifiers, they'll have to try and lose that 60% from their cap, resulting in fire sales in October and making it hard for certain clubs to sign players earlier in the season, as they're future is not set in stone.

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Quote: A-Fire-Inside "I explained the facts of it and nothing more, and let them reach their own conclusion. I only voiced how I felt about it after I'd finished. '"

So a completely neutral tone if voice? No facial expressions or gestures? These communicate more than your words ever could.

Quote: A-Fire-Inside "Have seen a few people referring to the NFL play-offs as being complicated when trying to justify this system, but they're really not are they? In fact, I explained them in one tweet yesterday. Could anyone do the same with the new RL structure?'"

I wasn't referring to the NFL play offs. That wouldn't be like for like.
Explain to me the structure of the NFL. Go on...

I can explain the SL play offs in a few words. Top 8 play each other once in round robin, then top four play semis and a final. Complicated? Not at all.

Quote: A-Fire-Inside "When people actually start to care about the Champions League - ie when the groups are set - the competition from that point on is hardly complicated is it??'"

But again, not comparing like for like. If you're going to hold the new SL structure back as being complicated, and include the Qualifiers in that structure, you have to do the same for every competition.

Out of the two examples, you've basically just cut out the difficult parts as not mattering, and then said they're simple really. Apply that principle to SL and the same happens.

You clearly have an agenda.

Quote: A-Fire-Inside "There's going to have to be some creative selling when it comes to flogging season tickets for 2015 I'd say - presume the 'extra' games will be all pay? That's worked out really well for play-off crowds in recent years hasn't it?'"

For someone saying there needs to be creativity, you've not thought out of the box there at all.
Here's a thought... sell a season ticket for 14-15 games. If you get a 15th game, bonus! If you don't, better luck next year.

They could even sell Super 8 tickets, where you get tickets for all 7 games (home and away).

Quote: A-Fire-Inside "IAnd the third 'Super 8' *cringe* is pretty pointless really isn't it - all those clubs are playing for is to avoid 7th and 8th. Real chance that by the time of the split there'd be teams adrift at the bottom anyway. In that scenario there'd be a lot more meaningless games than there is now!'"

A trophy is a trophy. Is it any more meaningless than the NRC?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "
A trophy is a trophy. Is it any more meaningless than the NRC?'"

Or the Commonwealth Games?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "

I wasn't referring to the NFL play offs. That wouldn't be like for like.
Explain to me the structure of the NFL. Go on...
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2 conferences, 4 divisions of 4 teams in each. Each team plays 16 games. 8 home, 8 away.
There you go. The structure of the NFL regular season.

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I understand the new structure better than the current playoff system tbh.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "
Here's a thought... sell a season ticket for 14-15 games. If you get a 15th game, bonus! If you don't, better luck next year'"
I dont want to do that. Why should i pay more for the same as someone else? Especially when the quality of some of the opponents im paying to see could drop massively part way through the season. Doesnt seem the best use of my entertainment money.
Quote: Wellsy13 "
They could even sell Super 8 tickets, where you get tickets for all 7 games (home and away).'"

That sounds a good idea to me, I dont need to bother shelling out for those early season games. I can just buy a season ticket for a lot less for the important part of the season. Plus at this stage ill know who we are playing and if we are in that bottom part i dont need to bother. Brilliant money saving option for me as a consumer.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "So a completely neutral tone if voice? No facial expressions or gestures? These communicate more than your words ever could.'"


I can't answer that - as I didn't have anyone filming me explaining it at the time, funnily enough icon_cheers.gif

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "With the endless moaning about lack of intensity, too many teams in the playoffs, no hope of promotion, blah, blah, I’m happy to see how it goes.

At least we get rid of the turgid Club Call.
haha, excatly. For the bloke whinging that the system is hard to explain to non-RL fans, explain the current playoff system to them, explain that teams in the bottom half get a chance to win the GF, explain the (alien to most in the UK) concept of no relegation to them, and see their faces then.

Clubcall - what a joke that is.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "With the endless moaning about lack of intensity, too many teams in the playoffs, no hope of promotion, blah, blah, I’m happy to see how it goes.

At least we get rid of the turgid Club Call. never understood why people hated club call so much. I barely remembered it was happening most years, when i did it was a bit of a talking point.

Im not saying i miss it but i find it hard to hate it.

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Quote: Errlee Berd "Not too difficult to understand really?'"


Of course not - to serious RL fans. You really think potential new fans are going to be convinced by it though?

Why is three different playoff systems needed for the four divisions?

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