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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Starbug "The biggest team sporting event in the world perhaps?'"
Which one?
The NFL has a league then play off structure, the football world cup has a league then play-off structure, the Champions league has a league then play-off structure, as does the NBA, NHL, NRL, RUWC, RLWC.
The Cricket World cup has a very wierd system that kind of has two leagues parts of it but its universally derided as a pretty crappy system.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "its at the top of this page you silly banana. You even quoted it
Its you who is confused, Celtic Crusaders and the Crusaders are/were 2 different clubs
One cheated by playing players on dodgy VISA s financed by RFL development grants and played in Bridgend
The other went bump playing out of Wrexham and didnt pay loads of its players wages
Roaring success's both wouldnt you say?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Which one?
The NFL has a league then play off structure, the football world cup has a league then play-off structure, the Champions league has a league then play-off structure, as does the NBA, NHL, NRL, RUWC, RLWC.
The Cricket World cup has a very wierd system that kind of has two leagues parts of it but its universally derided as a pretty crappy system.'"
The football world cup has 2 group stages played on a league basis, it used to have 3 at one point, the Champions league had 2 also at 1 point
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: fevfan76 "Lol I mean the 22 games are not irrelevant, they sort out the positions in the league. '" But you have already said Fev arent going to compete to win the thing or for the play-offs, so quite literally those games are irrelevant.
Quote: fevfan76 " Yet still better than many SL teams did against them last season'" not really, London were by far the worst team in SL last year and would have finished bottom if not for Salford appealing their punishment for having too many men on the field
Quote: fevfan76 "Getting paid full time to do a job is professional'" it takes more than that to be a pro RL player. As i said, you can call them pro if you want. But it doenst change the fact. If someone paid me to be an RL player, i still wouldnt make an professional RL player
Quote: fevfan76 "speculating again, you forgot to put "in your bias opinion"
Whywould Fev being in SL not help the growth of the game - go on real of another load of bull from your mind and speculation. look into your crystal ball you have and tell me our attendance would be crap because were from a hamlet. That we would end up skint and that players such as Hardaker, Burrows and briscoe still wouldn't play for us.'" There wasnt speculation or an opinion in there. It was a question. Hardaker, Burrow and Brsicoe still wouldnt play for you for the same reason Greg Inglis doesnt play for leeds, because they have contracts elsewhere, and two of them have never played for you
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Starbug "The football world cup has 2 group stages played on a league basis, it used to have 3 at one point, the Champions league had 2 also at 1 point'"
The World cup only has one sweetheart. Both Fifa and Uefa treat their qualifying competitions as just that. Qualifying comps distinct from the finals. Thats why all the stats and records are for the WC finals only. Just Fontaines records number fo goals in a world cup does not count those scored in qualifying.
In the world cup, those competitions are actually administered by two different organisations. The World Cup qualifiers are administered by the continential body. I.E Uefa, Where as the finals are a FIFA competition.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
There wasnt speculation or an opinion in there. It was a question. Hardaker, Burrow and Brsicoe still wouldnt play for you for the same reason Greg Inglis doesnt play for leeds, because they have contracts elsewhere, and two of them have never played for you'"
says players such as.. Theres a reason those 2 never played for us and that's because we weren't SL. Im not talking about signing them as big signings, im talking about them coming through our academy rather than someone else's - only one of those mentioned did. He had a 5 year contract and had we been in super league he wouldn't have had to leave us for a measly 70k.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: fevfan76 "says players such as.. Theres a reason those 2 never played for us and that's because we weren't SL. Im not talking about signing them as big signings, im talking about them coming through our academy rather than someone else's - only one of those mentioned did. He had a 5 year contract and had we been in super league he wouldn't have had to leave us for a measly 70k.'"
The grass always looks greener on the other side.......£4,000,000 a year is needed to fund a SL team......the bottom line is where will fev get the other £2,150,000 a year to be at best a bottom level SL club?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: gutterfax "The grass always looks greener on the other side.......£4,000,000 a year is needed to fund a SL team......the bottom line is where will fev get the other £2,150,000 a year to be at best a bottom level SL club?'"
No choice other than to try though GF, if you dont try, you might as well pack in , and if they dont find the cash somebody else, perhaps whoever they replace will push them back down
As you stated when this new structure was 1 st announced, this will reward those that build their club, Fev are building, how big they can build will decide where they stop ,simple as
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22/03/2013
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| Quote: Starbug "No choice other than to try though GF, if you dont try, you might as well pack in , and if they dont find the cash somebody else, perhaps whoever they replace will push them back down
As you stated when this new structure was 1 st announced, this will reward those that build their club, Fev are building, how big they can build will decide where they stop ,simple as'"
Yep,or you accept your position as a farm club and just plod on.
York are using a 30yr old N/Z player from castleford this weekend.
Drip drip.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Starbug "No choice other than to try though GF, if you dont try, you might as well pack in , and if they dont find the cash somebody else, perhaps whoever they replace will push them back down
As you stated when this new structure was 1 st announced, this will reward those that build their club, Fev are building, how big they can build will decide where they stop ,simple as'"
I don't doubt the intent nor the ambition of clubs like Fev, Leigh, Fax or anyone else for that matter. What I do worry about is the "belief" as conveyed by the Fev chairman/CEO last year when London wobbled, they 'they were ready for SL".
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Featherstone Rovers and Halifax are 2 of the better supported clubs in the KPC this year. 2 Great Clubs with proud traditions that are separated by 25 miles managed to attract 2,583 fans last weekend. This is far more than the London Broncos can muster, but it is not even close to being enough to support a team in the top flight.
The issue faced by Leigh, Featherstone and the other clubs who "aspire" to play at the highest level is that the London Broncos have a benefactor that has thrown close to £13,000,000 at the club in the last 5 years and although short sighted and suicidal may be very apt terms when describing Mr Hughes and his flushing cash down the toilet, it shows the level of investment that a club on even a 6k average will need to attract to have any chance of being competitive. The biggest problem is that even a 6k average wont happen overnight...it will take a few years, so whilst the club do everything in their power to get fans to come to games.....who's going to pick up the tab to make sure they stay competitive until they become self sufficient?
Growing your own is all well and good, but the reality is that if a Wigan or a Leeds come knocking, these young lads will be sold to the SL top 6. Growing your own takes time and as we saw last year in the cup, the home grown Fev and Sheffield lads were no match for the worst team in SL.
Hey.....more power to their elbow if they manage to get into the top tier, but I can see more clubs going bust in that middle 8 section than just Crusaders, Bradford and Wakey in the last 6 years.
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| Quote: headhunter "Hunslet and Bramley have been in the top flight before, let's promote them too.'"
That makes no sense, lmao
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Widnes are a positive of franchising. Bradford x2, Wakefield, Crusaders are an argument why it doesn't work.'"
The irony is ofcourse, that WIDNES were one of the clubds SLE were hoping to dispose of, aswell as Hull KR, Cas' or Wakey (they actually wanted to merge those two along with Fev' as I remember it). So their franchising REALLY worked there didn't it, lmfao!
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Its you who is confused, Celtic Crusaders and the Crusaders are/were 2 different clubs
One cheated by playing players on dodgy VISA s financed by RFL development grants and played in Bridgend
The other went bump playing out of Wrexham and didnt pay loads of its players wages
Roaring success's both wouldnt you say?'"
No, it is you.........again
Celtic crusaders did not play in the 2007 championship grand final, they didn't go bust in 2008, and they didn't change names and location in the 2009 season. All this lovely irrelevant nonsense you are now trying to hide behind, is, well.... Irrelevant. What you have repeatedly stated is demonstrably untrue.
Celtic weren't even the championship in 2007 never mind the championship,grand final and weren't in super league in 2008 never mind bust and relocating however many times you continue to state it, it still won't be true.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "No, it is you.........again
Celtic crusaders did not play in the 2007 championship grand final, they didn't go bust in 2008, and they didn't change names and location in the 2009 season. All this lovely irrelevant nonsense you are now trying to hide behind, is, well.... Irrelevant. What you have repeatedly stated is demonstrably untrue.
Celtic weren't even the championship in 2007 never mind the championship,grand final and weren't in super league in 2008 never mind bust and relocating however many times you continue to state it, it still won't be true.'"
My ' Timeline ' is out by 12 months, the rest stands, no matter how childishly pedantic you want to make it bell end
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| The rest doesnt 'stand' because it was irrelevant nonsense that was factually incorrect.
Otherwise known as a 'Starbug'
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