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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "The problem is one you have invented to fit your narrative.'"


So common opinion [ even yours ] is that we dont have enough ' Super ' clubs for SL , and we aren't going to get anymore anytime soon , but you dont have an answer to what most people see as that being a problem

You do work for the RFL

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Quote: Starbug "So the answer to the problem is ?'"

Attempt to improve the Championship clubs until there is eventually (in the long term) a possibility of P&R returning.
The best ways of helping I would have thought would be a slight change in how RFL funds are distributed to give more to each Championship club. It wouldn't be much as there isn't much to go around anyway but at that level a few thousand can be a big help to some clubs. Also I'm sure the RFL could help with marketing of each club to its local area. Be it through negotiating with local media, local schools or things like the summer camps which a lot of SL clubs run but which some Championship clubs would struggle to fund. Also kicking and cajoling some clubs owners/CEO's into engaging with the local community would be helpful as well.
All clubs, but especially the smaller clubs, need to become much more affiliated with their local areas and communities.

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I don’t think that’s common opinion and its not my opinion. The number clubs we have at the level we need is growing, and other clubs are getting closer to it.
Currently Leeds, St’s, and Wigan are and were traditionally ‘super’ Clubs. Warrington have recently joined them over the last 10 years, as have Hull. Les Catalans, and Hudds are well on their way. There is no reason why, under competent management, Bradford cant regain their position.

Wakefield and HKR are getting their infrastructure sorted, they look to be starting on that journey to be a ‘super club’ Widnes have the infrastructure in place, and now need to build on it with a big increase in crowds and some success on the field. I think they will be pretty happy with last year.

That’s 11 of our 14 clubs, who are either there, or on their way.

We don’t have enough to fill the league at the moment, but we are moving towards it, and I see no reason why we cant continue that and build on it.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Him "Attempt to improve the Championship clubs until there is eventually (in the long term) a possibility of P&R returning.
The best ways of helping I would have thought would be a slight change in how RFL funds are distributed to give more to each Championship club. It wouldn't be much as there isn't much to go around anyway but at that level a few thousand can be a big help to some clubs. Also I'm sure the RFL could help with marketing of each club to its local area. Be it through negotiating with local media, local schools or things like the summer camps which a lot of SL clubs run but which some Championship clubs would struggle to fund. Also kicking and cajoling some clubs owners/CEO's into engaging with the local community would be helpful as well.
All clubs, but especially the smaller clubs, need to become much more affiliated with their local areas and communities.'"



This man wins the huge teddy bear a014.gif

Money , not given to the clubs , but money spent on the correct things to improve the clubs and their potential to grow localised fan bases and improve existing and find new income streams

Not gimmicks like token french clubs or playing midweek televised matches for nothing

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So as you have been saying for the last god knows how many years, your solution for everything is magic free money for your club.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "So as you have been saying for the last god knows how many years, your solution for everything is magic free money for your club.'"


More a case of actually understanding that some clubs require different types of help , unfortunatly the RFL are clueless at this type of understanding , that is of course if they really do want the sport to grow , I sometimes think they dont , they only want parts of it to be a success , and want others to struggle to further their own agenda's

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Quote: maurice "I would advise that when you stand up, make sure you get all that sand out of your ears.'"
I take this to mean that Smokey isn't wrong then.

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Quote: Starbug "More a case of actually understanding that some clubs require different types of help , '"
So we should all actually understand that different clubs need different help? Like expansion clubs and heatland clubs. Like for instance Crusaders and Widnes?
Quote: Starbug "unfortunatly the RFL are clueless at this type of understanding , that is of course if they really do want the sport to grow , I sometimes think they dont , they only want parts of it to be a success , and want others to struggle to further their own agenda's'"
So you think the RFL are like you and the rest of the flatcap brigade then?

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I think that the RFL want financially viable and sustainable clubs, that meet a minimum standard set for a competition, regardless of their location and/or history.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "So we should all actually understand that different clubs need different help? Like expansion clubs and heatland clubs. Like for instance Crusaders and Widnes?So you think the RFL are like you and the rest of the flatcap brigade then?'"


Of course , Crusaders obviously needed help [ sorry , their players ] about VISA's , Championship expansion clubs need probably very similar help to heartland Championship clubs , maybe thats why the new expansion clubs in the Championship are struggling just like the rest

Some clubs just need massive cash ' bail outs ' to continue to operate , and theatrical press releases about ' Iconic ' stadiums

So yes all clubs are slightly different , but there are specific groups of clubs that require certain types of help

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Quote: Starbug "
Money , not given to the clubs , but money spent on the correct things to improve the clubs and their potential to grow localised fan bases and improve existing and find new income streams
...'"


This is spot on. The RFL should just throw pots of magic money in the direction of all clubs, especially Championship clubs. It's magic money, since it doesn't exist but that's the answer.

As well as that the RFL should find, for each Championship club "new income streams". Oh, as well as "improving existing income streams". This is fantastic news. But what does it mean? Oh, I see. Yes, the RFL also needs to get more money from the people who the clubs can't currently get to pay more, and the RFL needs to find more money (STREAMS of it, of course) which these clubs are not able to find themselves.

Bravo. [iMore [/iMagic Money.

BTW, whilst we all anxiously await the invention of Magic Money - is there anything else the RFL could do in the intervening millennia?

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Quote: Starbug "Of course , Crusaders obviously needed help [ sorry , their players ] about VISA's , '"
You still peddling this lie Mr Mitty?
Quote: Starbug "Championship expansion clubs need probably very similar help to heartland Championship clubs , maybe thats why the new expansion clubs in the Championship are struggling just like the restSo they need to be treated differently and the same. Interesting.
Some clubs just need massive cash ' bail outs ' to continue to operate , and theatrical press releases about ' Iconic ' stadiums

So yes all clubs are slightly different , but there are specific groups of clubs that require certain types of help'"

So what you are saying is that clubs should be treated either differently, or exactly the same, depending on whether it suits you.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "This is spot on. The RFL should just throw pots of magic money in the direction of all clubs, especially Championship clubs. It's magic money, since it doesn't exist but that's the answer.

As well as that the RFL should find, for each Championship club "new income streams". Oh, as well as "improving existing income streams". This is fantastic news. But what does it mean? Oh, I see. Yes, the RFL also needs to get more money from the people who the clubs can't currently get to pay more, and the RFL needs to find more money (STREAMS of it, of course) which these clubs are not able to find themselves.

Bravo. [iMore [/iMagic Money.

BTW, whilst we all anxiously await the invention of Magic Money - is there anything else the RFL could do in the intervening millennia?'"


I understand now why the Bulls ended up in the brown smelly stuff icon_lol.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "You still peddling this lie Mr Mitty? .'"


I am suggesting the Crusaders players should have recieved help in dealing with their VISA applications , if they had , they wouldn't have got into the mess they did , would they ?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Him "Attempt to improve the Championship clubs until there is eventually (in the long term) a possibility of P&R returning.
The best ways of helping I would have thought would be a slight change in how RFL funds are distributed to give more to each Championship club. It wouldn't be much as there isn't much to go around anyway but at that level a few thousand can be a big help to some clubs. Also I'm sure the RFL could help with marketing of each club to its local area. Be it through negotiating with local media, local schools or things like the summer camps which a lot of SL clubs run but which some Championship clubs would struggle to fund. Also kicking and cajoling some clubs owners/CEO's into engaging with the local community would be helpful as well.
All clubs, but especially the smaller clubs, need to become much more affiliated with their local areas and communities.'"



Quote: Him "

Smokey and FA

Are you stark raving bonkers man ? , where will all this FREE money come from ? , You are obviously a BUFFOON of the highest order '"


Ok , with that icon_wink.gif , I didnt want you left out of the mock ridicule aimed at me icon_lol.gif

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