By who?????

Clutching at straws or what.

I hope Brian makes it I really do, but it's a huge gamble and you know it. Far more of a gamble than McLennan was regardless of his 9 years.


The way you lot have turned on McLennan and suddenly view McDermott as the new messiah is frankly pathetic and puts the f in fickle!

not at all, i wasnt talking about McClennan, i was talking about Royce Simmons, a guy who failed in the big time, spent 9 years as an assistant because no-one else would give him a shot, Saints take a risk on him and no-one questions it purely because he is Australian.

Brian McClennan did a wonderful job at Leeds, im not criticising him at all, simply saying that when we appointed McClennan it was a risk and he had less experience than McDermott, but again as an Antipodean it wasnt really questioned, Tony Smith, again, has less of a pedigree than McDermott when he was appointed.

It is a risk, but you have to take these risks to stay at the top. Im glad we have given McDermott a shot, i think he deserves it

I'd have taken Potter over McDermott every time. I hope I'm wrong and he's a great success but given he's achieved less coaching first grade than McNamara has I'm not holding my breath.

of course he has, he has been managing Quins not Bradford, and he has done a decent job with them, not to mention the great work he did as assistant at Leeds,

What on Royce Simmons C.V shows him to be a better bet than McDermott?

excellent post.rated him as a player and a coach.and i think he will do well.its about time clubs gave our own lads a chance at coaching.lets hope more clubs look at home rather than overseas all the time..

He's been an assistant at a team which has won two NRL Grand Finals which is pretty similar to the current Super League winning coach, Michael Maguire. Of course there are no guarantees of success and I will wait to pass judgement on Simmons. However, had Saints appointed McDermott I'd have gone ballistic lol.

He also failed at Hull and was fired from Penrith, nobody wanted to give him a shot for 9 years.

Mcdermott was assistant to Tony Smith in 2004 when Leeds won SL by a record margin, with a record points total, a record amount of points scored and a record points difference, and in 2005 when they went to the CC final and GF. He then did a decent job at Quins, especially in blooding young british players.

Why does Simmons deserve the benefit of the doubt and you giving him a chance before you pass judgement but McDermott should immediately be derided without a game being played?

Its become an intrinsic part of British RL, where anyone giving a shot to unproven British talent is immediately denigrated whereas unproven, or even just previously not very successful antipodeans are given a fair crack of the whip and defended to high heaven

I completely agree. You are totally right.

you don't say adey


it's a sad shame when you have to resort to posting to yourself,or in fact by repeating yourself in groundhog day fashion

We actually have a better coach than Leeds now

Has he left because of results or is it his decision ?

Can this seasons Championship winning team be credited as Brian Nobles then? Maguire didn't make wholesale changes to it so it must be Nobles work? Seems that way having read through this thread and noticed people slagging off McClennan. McClennan did a superb job at Leeds leading us to back to back titles and nearly got us into the GF again this year despite our team being ravaged by injuries.

Good luck to McDermott I say. We have given him a shot and I hope he takes it. Why his appointment has been criticised so much when Saints have hired a coach who, from the limited information I have gathered, lost more games than he won as a head coach 10 years and hasn't been given another shot since has seemingly got away with none I do not know.