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"A new stadium bounce at the AJ Bell in 2012 saw an average gate over 5,500 but that did not last long, with a decline which saw their average drop below 3,000 as many fans quickly fell out of love with their new home."

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"A new stadium bounce at the AJ Bell in 2012 saw an average gate over 5,500 but that did not last long, with a decline which saw their average drop below 3,000 as many fans quickly fell out of love with their new home."

https://www.totalrl.com/up-or-down-an-i ... st-decade/


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Quote: ninearches "How has the new stadium affected Salford attendances ? Up or down ? I personally ,as Wire fan, think it is easier to get to but a nightmare to get off ,but it does look better than the Willows. My last memory of there was when a Salford fan set fire to the scoreboard....nobody seemed bothered & the game carried on. I wonder if they even phoned the fire brigade ?'"


What has this remotely got to do with Koukash potentially getting involved at Leigh? icon_lol.gif I'm sure you're well aware attendances have gone down btw. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Harry Stottle "

Sorry I am late with a reply, Firstly, I had a look over on TRL forums and I was not dissapointed in the least with the kind if reactions I expected to read, 90% of them were of a negative nature, i.e. what about Cumbria, what about Liverpool, what about Bradford, what about Salford Academy, how rich is Dr. Koukash really, he and Deggsy will fall out, I honestly find it all very tedious.

As I say I will be overjoyed if the Doc joins my club and I won't be upset with whoever's toes we step on, if he doesn't come then I will settle back in the manner I have become accustomed to over the years for a very long, and just dream what could have been.

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Terrible post this Harry icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

Never mind what reactions some people are coming up with on Forums, these forums are full of people who dream of the game going massive in North America, the game setting up a European League, the game setting up successful clubs in Rugby Union land, the game going Anglo-French, Transatlantic or even a world league where SL and the NRL meet. All this is real to them and funded of course by bags of scotch mist.....

Many of their dreams were dug up again when they heard of venture capitol, that being completely free money that rich individuals will give RL clubs in spades to spend with no need to pay anything back at all. To them the problem is "Northern clubs" in towns who nobody of course has ever heard of. They are getting close to their dream of the Anglo-French league in which more French clubs join SL. They imagine there's pots of gold at the end of chasing these rainbows because this is "The greatest game" and the rest of the world just needs to get a glimpse of it we will conquer the world.

In the real world the majority of fans simply want to see the game prosper. They see how Soccer and Union "prosper" via rich owners, and they welcome such rich owners as I do especially those who are pantomime villains like Degsy.........

Man up Harry my boy and enjoy thr ride icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SaleSlim "How has the new stadium affected Salford attendances ? Up or down ? I personally ,as Wire fan, think it is easier to get to but a nightmare to get off ,but it does look better than the Willows. My last memory of there was when a Salford fan set fire to the scoreboard....nobody seemed bothered & the game carried on. I wonder if they even phoned the fire brigade ?'"


What has this remotely got to do with Koukash potentially getting involved at Leigh?
Well seeing as i wasn't the first to mention Salford on this topic ,my thoughts are would the Doctor have had more success at Salford if the club had still been at the Willows among its long term fan base & would success have attracted more fans to make the club more viable than being out at Barton where ,apart from its first season, attendances have dropped as you assert. Perhaps Marwan would benefit Leigh if he is coming into a club that has not moved from its fanbase.
Incidentally ,have Sale Sharks benefitted from the new stadium ?

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Quote: ninearches "Incidentally ,have Sale Sharks benefitted from the new stadium ?'"

Looks like they average about 6,200 a season....that's about 25% down on where they were before they moved in. They made an offer in April, probably based on the success they've seen wasps have in coventry where they're 10,000 better off per game + other revenue streams.
Marwan with his gazzilllions could do worse than buy the stadium for Leigh....

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Quote: orangeman "Looks like they average about 6,200 a season....that's about 25% down on where they were before they moved in. They made an offer in April, probably based on the success they've seen wasps have in coventry where they're 10,000 better off per game + other revenue streams.
Marwan with his gazzilllions could do worse than buy the stadium for Leigh....'"


Last estimate of his wealth I have seen was £50 Million in 2018 via hotel ownership......

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Quote: orangeman "
Marwan with his gazzilllions could do worse than buy the stadium for Leigh....'"


I’m not sure Dr K would want to swap his millions and properties / assets for a stadium in Leigh. No offence at all to Leigh but he’s likely to make more money from his current assets than a stadium

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Quote: orangeman "Looks like they average about 6,200 a season....that's about 25% down on where they were before they moved in. They made an offer in April, probably based on the success they've seen wasps have in coventry where they're 10,000 better off per game + other revenue streams.
Marwan with his gazzilllions could do worse than buy the stadium for Leigh....'"


Wasps lose millions every year and have been forced to refinance their debts a couple of times already because they were unable to make the repayments. They're not a success story at all.

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No one knows how much cash the doctor has.

Probably no where near the “estimates” and certainly a patch on the millions and millions our owner has.

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "No one knows how much cash the doctor has.

Probably no where near the “estimates” and certainly a patch on the millions and millions our owner has.'"


This is 3 years ago,so make of it what you will. Scroll half way down rlHERErl

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Quote: nadera78 "Wasps lose millions every year and have been forced to refinance their debts a couple of times already because they were unable to make the repayments. They're not a success story at all.'"

I believe they are in debt to the tune of 50 million, with 60% to the bank and 40% to the owner. I suspect if you wanted to build a stadium of that magnitude again, you'd be spending a similar amount, so they're not panicking just yet. As for not being a success at all.....they have 17k average gates where they used to have 6k......fiscally they're owned by a very wealthy man so the debt isn't yet a problem, but they're far better off than they were at wycombe....compare their story with say Bradford and tell me which is the bigger basket case?

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Quote: Huddersfield1895 "Other Super League clubs don't appear to want to cut their academies. Most odd when you consider that championship sides London and Newcastle run academies.'"

& some want to run an Academy & have proven funds to run one at the highest level *Leigh* but are not allowed to !

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Quote: Bulls4 "I’m not sure Dr K would want to swap his millions and properties / assets for a stadium in Leigh. No offence at all to Leigh but he’s likely to make more money from his current assets than a stadium'"

Probably true, yet the stadium at LSV makes revenue from Manchester United Reserves, Manchester United Ladies, Leigh Centurions, Rugby League Internationals, Lionel Ritchie & Elton John concerts.

Meanwhile over at Odsal .......

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Meanwhile over at Odsal .......'"

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