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That Walmsley elbow was twice as bad as Watts'. Walmsley actually raised his arm before impact and caught the Salford player and the Salford player wasn't down by Walmsley's waist with bad tackle technique. Shocking refereeing. It was at least a bin for dangerous play. The ball carrier also has a responsibility of care to the tackler. It isn't a one way thing.

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The ref has been atrocious,spoilt what was beginning to be a good game.

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It was shocking from Lannon but obviously it was on the back of child's decision. They was no way Child's would have given a red, if he could he would put the ball over the white wash for saints tonight.

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Quote: Seth "Thats my point, an error of judgement was made hence Watts not getting a ban. The officials cant keep making errors just to 'even it up''"


To put it on report and not give a penalty is stupid though.

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100% neither were penalties, and giving one shows a lack of understanding of the game and how you carry a ball in to contact.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "That Walmsley elbow was twice as bad as Watts'. Walmsley actually raised his arm before impact and caught the Salford player and the Salford player wasn't down by Walmsley's waist with bad tackle technique. Shocking refereeing. It was at least a bin for dangerous play. The ball carrier also has a responsibility of care to the tackler. It isn't a one way thing.'"


Rubbish, Salford player got his head in the wrong place.

Should Walmsleys try have been disallowed then? He ran in exactly the same way.

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Quote: pmarrow "To put it on report and not give a penalty is stupid though.'"

Absolutely, thats the refs easy decision to get him out of making a call

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Ref got both decisions right, just unfortunate that Watts suffered.

Lannon's was a shocker, should get a few matchs, cost them any chance of winning the game, can't believe some Salfords fans clapped him off.

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I'd have given a penalty for taking the kicker out. Possibly a yellow. It was an offense. But not dangerous he put hands in the face not fists or an arm.

Walmsley 50/50 ryan Bailey and fozzard used to run with arms up all the time. But if we are saying no head contact then maybe the hand off needs banning

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Quote: Seth "100% neither were penalties, and giving one shows a lack of understanding of the game and how you carry a ball in to contact.'"


Leading with the forearm has always been a penalty. It's dangerous contact. What are you talking about?

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Quote: Leon Ashton "Rubbish, Salford player got his head in the wrong place.

Should Walmsleys try have been disallowed then? He ran in exactly the same way.'"


His head was at a natural tackling height. Walmsley moves his elbow towards the Salford player's head. Not the other way around. The ball carrier has just as much a duty of care as the tackler. If the tackler led with his forearm/elbow to the head would that be okay too?

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Quote: Seth "Thats my point, an error of judgement was made hence Watts not getting a ban. The officials cant keep making errors just to 'even it up''"


The RFL said Watts was guilty and gave him SOS, so based on that Walmsley should get a one match ban.

The RFL should have admitted the Watts sending off was wrong, which they bottled doing.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Leading with the forearm has always been a penalty. It's dangerous contact. What are you talking about?'"


Arm coming up in contact as you drive through the tackle is a completely different thing. The ball is carried like that dozens of times in a game but can go that way depending on the position and control or lack of from the tackler

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People are missing the point with the Watts incident. The RFL verdict was of sending off sufficient, ie. a degree of guilt on the part of the player. This of course was ridiculous and looked like a fudge to prevent the officials looking like idiots. However they made a huge rod for their own backs and we have seen the first incident tonight that has come back to bite them. Walmsley did the same as Watts arguably worse, and no sending off - which as i've just explained is what the RFL thought Watts deserved.

another, yer another, case of inconsistency which is driving fans away from the game i'm afraid

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Leading with the forearm has always been a penalty. It's dangerous contact. What are you talking about?'"


He didnt really lead with the forearm though, he used his arm as a bumper which happens 100s of times in a game, its on the border but he will probably just be cautioned.

Lannon though was clearly leading with the forearm and was late so definite red for me

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