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| 1. Try must be scored by hand, no forearm, elbow, shoulder torso etc.
2. Remove foot over the dead ball line rule
3. Allow quick 25m tap without setting onsides.
4. When players ball carrying arm hits the ground on the tackle no further wrestling or turning on the back, offence concede extra tackle.
5. Stop referee "coaching"
6 Allow partial contested scrums, half back feeds towards there own front row.
7 Reduce back chat arguing to referee, offence concede extra tackle. (Excluding Team Captain)
8. Set time limits on drop outs under the posts and penalties to touch. Out of time on drop outs attacking team PTB on the 25 metre line. Out of time penalties then PTB at penalty position.
9. More yellow cards and remove "on report", match is reviewd anyway.
10 Touch judges to have more control on the offside at the PTB.
11. Players (attacking) moving off the mark at the PTB forfeit a tackle from the count.
12. No 10 metre encroachment offside rule if ball is kicked from within the back 25 metre area.
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| Simpler one for a try would be to make ball retention a criteria. The whole "downward pressure" thing doesn't count anywhere else on the field so why so in the act of scoring (i.e. you have to retain the ball during & after a tackle, prior to the PTB).
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| 1. Police the rucks to the letter of the law (it will improve our game no end!)
2. If your foot (or other body part) is in touch anywhere on the pitch at any time when you touch the ball you are deemed to be out of play with the ball whether you've put your foot (or other body part) in touch first or not
3. The packs must have their torso from hips up horizontal to the floor in scrums, all players must physically bind properly in the scrum with no gaps, the ball should not be "out" of the scrum until the scrum half takes it out and the defensive line should be 10m back from the scrum (not five)
4. If the ref actually knows it's a try or it's not a try he should give that decision, if he's not sure he should not be guessing at what he thinks it might be ever! He should send it up to be looked at by the video ref to make the decision, not, send it up to the VR to try and prove the ref's blind guess wrong.
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| Introduce the shot clock for drop outs and scrums
Automatic 10 minutes sin bin for dissent
Penalise players who throw themselves on the floor trying to milk a penalty
Penalise players who deliberately move off the mark
Way too much gamesmanship and trying to influence the ref
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| when a player has finally stopped being wrestled, sorry tackled, he should restart play by placing the ball on the ground and rolling it backwards with his foot.
when a referee shrieks 'HEEEEELD', the wrestlers, sorry tacklers, should release the player on this call or a penalty should be awarded.
As in football, if a player simulates he should recieve a yellow card. Sick of seeing players trying to milk a penalty at EVERY play the ball now.
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| I would bring back being able to play the ball to yourself after being tackled AND maybe even allow the marker to strike at the ball - it used to make us all concentrate on playing the ball correctly, if we were slipshod we knew that the marker could strike - obviously refs would need to rigorously enforce correct play the balls
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| I'd like to see the sin bin changed to either a five or ten minute period depending on the severity of offence.
I think that would give the refs more chance to punish lesser offences like dissent and holding in the tackle or obstruction without a 10 minute penalty, which can have a big effect on the games outcome
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "when a player has finally stopped being wrestled, sorry tackled, he should restart play by placing the ball on the ground and rolling it backwards with his foot.
when a referee shrieks 'HEEEEELD', the wrestlers, sorry tacklers, should release the player on this call or a penalty should be awarded.
As in football, if a player simulates he should recieve a yellow card. Sick of seeing players trying to milk a penalty at EVERY play the ball now.'"
clark and ratchford are 2 of the worst for it and even hill has started doing it.
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| 1. Allow penalty advantage for up to two tackles. Often a team loses momentum if penalty given.
2. Allow a team to finish their set if hooter goes (hull kr should have cheated last tackle yesterday and got defence set)
3. Sin bins for throwing the ball away, happened after nearly every drop out on fri
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| The ref's call when it goes to the V.R should go, if not, at least get some decent technology to assist his decision.
When a pinpoint kick to the in-goal is just raked out of play is infuriating.
I also like the seven tackle rule used in Aus when the ball goes dead.
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| Reinstate tunnel feed in scrums,
Play the ball with the foot.
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| I don't think too much needs to be changed.
Play the ball needs cleaning up, goes without saying.
Do away with the rule where they can scoop a kick out and play it dead.
The current grounding of the ball situation is fine, because it eliminates grey areas, all you have to do is find a frame where a part of the hand and the ball are touching at the same time as the ball touches the ground. As soon as you start going into ''downward pressure'' territory it gets left open to interpretation, they'll be inconsistency and the very people who want it changed will be the ones moaning loudest at the decisions when it is.
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| Quote: Judder Man "1. Try must be scored by hand, no forearm, elbow, shoulder torso etc.
2. Remove foot over the dead ball line rule
3. Allow quick 25m tap without setting onsides.
4. When players ball carrying arm hits the ground on the tackle no further wrestling or turning on the back, offence concede extra tackle.
5. Stop referee "coaching"
6 Allow partial contested scrums, half back feeds towards there own front row.
7 Reduce back chat arguing to referee, offence concede extra tackle. (Excluding Team Captain)
8. Set time limits on drop outs under the posts and penalties to touch. Out of time on drop outs attacking team PTB on the 25 metre line. Out of time penalties then PTB at penalty position.
9. More yellow cards and remove "on report", match is reviewd anyway.
10 Touch judges to have more control on the offside at the PTB.
11. Players (attacking) moving off the mark at the PTB forfeit a tackle from the count.
12. No 10 metre encroachment offside rule if ball is kicked from within the back 25 metre area.'"
Agree with most of this, but to deal with the back chat and abuse of officials, if any player is found guilty of this he automatically concedes a penalty kick direct in line with the posts, from wherever the offence occurred, if the non offending team don't score or get the ball dead they get to start a set from where the offence took place, that would soon put a stop to it!
Also if a player is found guilty of trying to buy or milk a penalty by moving off the mark, into the markers or just playacting, then he concedes a turnover from where it happened.
Once teams start conceding possession and points the coaches and players would soon have it drilled out of them I'm sure.
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| Oh and get shut of the video ref!
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| Definitely need to change the one where you can put a foot over the line and scoop the ball out, making it too easy to defend excellently placed kicks.
Also the tackled player moving off the mark or placing the ball behind the markers legs to play them offside.
There's far too much gamesmanship creeping in and its ruining the honesty of our 'working class' sport.
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